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fandomsecrets2013-03-31 03:11 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2013-03-31 03:11 pm
[ SECRET POST #2280 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2280 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 080 secrets from Secret Submission Post #326.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
OP
(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 02:39 am (UTC)(link)As for why this particular pairing, that's just where I saw it. I don't doubt it pops up in other pairings with Loki, but I haven't seen it yet (though I just realized that I've sort of been trending away from all Loki slash). I guess seeing it repeatedly within the same pairing made me think it's some bandwagon thing, though I have no idea if that's true. Just a gut reaction of "Get me away from these people!"
I guess the reason it bugs me so much is that it makes it look like the writer wants to seem educated without actually bothering to educate themselves (the same sort of person who goes "Did you know that to say [x phrase] in French, you actually say..."). It's not a word you would just throw around, and it's not an adjective either (not in that form, anyway). What I mainly see is grammatical misuse, which wouldn't happen if you'd done even basic research.
Also (and sorry to get SJW up in here), it feeds into the queer fetishization that happens in fandom. What's even more messed up is that instead of just fetishizing someone's sexuality (which is bad enough), here they're fetishizing something that is a totally fucked-up idea: that the "bottom" in a gay male relationship is basically a woman, always. Essentially, writing Loki's "ergi" as something to fap over. Or laugh at. I once saw the phrase "homo Vikings" used in an intrafandom explanation of ergi. Excuse me while I vomit bile.
I'm not a scholar by any means, but I do read Old Norse, so it really sticks out to me. I guess it would be like being fluent in Spanish and seeing a Spanish word just awkwardly and incorrectly shoehorned into the dialogue of a Spanish-speaking character. It's off-putting, and it makes you think the writer is ignorant about the culture they're writing.
I realize that people aren't expected to have any understanding of a language that's considered dead. I also realize that Thor is only loosely based on actual Norse mythology, but the concept of ergi is one that was taken from an actual culture by the Thor fans, and not by the movie/comic writers.
Though I realize it's stupid to get my panties in a twist, hence the secret.
Re: OP
(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 02:44 am (UTC)(link)Oh, and the other anons are right about the uncertainty of what it actually meant, originally. The thing is that the fanfic writers are working on the assumption that it means what you'll see on the Wikipedia page (submissive homosexuality).
Re: OP
(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 04:14 am (UTC)(link)Re: OP
(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 06:19 am (UTC)(link)Re: OP