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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-01 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2281 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2281 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[David Suchet]


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[The Lorax (2012)]


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[Randy Cunningham: 9th Grade Ninja]


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[My Mad Fat Diary]


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[Sakura Taisen/Wars]


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[Life in the Dreamhouse]


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[Grimm]


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[Chrono Crusade]


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[Gail Carriger]


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[Psycho-Pass]


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[Homeland]


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[Escape My Life!]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Persona 4]


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[Twisted]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 063 secrets from Secret Submission Post #326.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I don't HATE the characters that get in the way of my preferred ship, and I certainly don't bash them, but I think it's acceptable to not like the character much since they ARE in the way, don't you think? It's not much different from you disliking the girlfriend of someone you like on principle regardless if they're the sweetest person in the world, or whatever.

There are lots of characters who I simply cannot love because of this reason. I grew out of the bashing stage, but that's honestly about it. And gender doesn't really matter, I don't think. Well, in most cases. I mean, if you think about it women are the likeliest characters to get in the way of a preferred M/M ship considering how heteronormative medias are. I can't speak for anyone, but it really doesn't have much to do with gender. There are plenty of male characters (like Mickey from Doctor Who, and Raoul from Phantom of the Opera, and Kevin from Criminal Minds, and Ron from Harry Potter, etc) who I simply cannot love because they get in the way.

Nothing wrong with that at all.

Unless you're being a psycho about it, of course.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
"It's not much different from you disliking the girlfriend of someone you like on principle regardless if they're the sweetest person in the world, or whatever."

I'm not sure that's the most un-problematic example one could use. It seems petty, which is exactly what the secret-poster seems to be complaining about.

Re: your main point - sure, there's nothing 'wrong' with disliking characters for this reason...or because you don't like their middle name...or their ethnicity. Or for absolutely no reason you can pinpoint. Particularly if you don't bash.

That doesn't mean your thought process is going to make sense to everyone.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You make no sense.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's acceptable to not like the character much since they ARE in the way, don't you think? It's not much different from you disliking the girlfriend of someone you like on principle regardless if they're the sweetest person in the world, or whatever.

There are plenty of male characters (like Mickey from Doctor Who, and Raoul from Phantom of the Opera, and Kevin from Criminal Minds, and Ron from Harry Potter, etc) who I simply cannot love because they get in the way.

Nothing wrong with that at all.


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Um, yes, there is something fucking wrong with that. I cannot begin to summarize everything that is wrong with that. And no, it is not "not much different". It is COMPLETELY different so as to not be even in the same universe.

The characters are not you, this is not your life, and "simply not being able to love" a character...because they are part of a story that involves two characters - WHO ARE NOT YOU - who you ship and they happen to "get in the way" of your ship? Seriously?

Do you watch for the story at all? Do you not care about the character dynamics or the depiction of people being believable people having believable interactions? Do you seriously think it's remotely sane or logical to be incapable of appreciating characters who add something to the story and who have a function in the story that adds to the overall meaning of the story and to the development of the plot, themes, other characters' development, if they get in the way of a couple you ship? Is your entire appreciation of the show based on "If X helps get my ship together, X= good, and if X stops my ship from getting together, X = bad"?

That couple is not you. I just...wow. Just wow. I cannot wrap my mind around people actually thinking this is an okay or logical way of thinking about a fictional story. I can understand rooting against a character who is blocking your ship, or disliking them because they are irritating or they are reducing the quality of a storyline, but disliking them simply because they block a ship...that does not involve you? WHAT. Just....just wat. How do people possibly consume fiction in this manner? How?