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Exactly. I fail to see how "relates to wolves" is any more crazy than "thinks people are made of dirt and rib bones."

You don't have minerals or rib bones?

Hmmm, someone needs a course of metaphor
http://blip.tv/sf-debris-opinionated-reviews/it-s-not-easy-being-god-6465265

In fact, many people need a course in metaphor -- including all the Christians who believe the Genesis creation story to be literally true. They exist in frightening numbers.

It's very upsetting that whenever a conversation like this arises, people automatically bring up how Christians belief in the literal Creation story and take literal interpretations of everything in the Bible.

People *really* need to realize that those people do not speak for all Christians and probably not even a third of all Christians. They're just the loudest.

I understand that not all Christians are Biblical literalists, and I get not wanting to be lumped in with them.

But the ones who take Genesis literally DO exist, and they ARE "real Christians" too, and it is valid to bring them up when talking about the absurd things that some religious people believe -- especially in the context of asking why we make fun of some people for believing absurd things, but not others.

I know that. It's just so annoying to try to have a conversation with someone as a Christian and have 'BUT YOU BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE MADE OUT OF DIRT AND BBQ RIBS!' constantly thrown in my face. I accept that they exist. It's a lot of people around me who can't seem to grasp that their existence doesn't automatically make me one of them.

But... nobody said they were talking about you, or about all Christians. They said, how is being otherkin any more ridiculous than believing in a literal reading of the Genesis creation story. That doesn't in any way implicate other Christians who don't interpret that story literally.

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LOL because that's exactly what all religious people think and not just the crazy fundamentalist Christians...

But "the crazy fundamentalists" don't get made fun of here, and otherkin do. That's the point. Why one and not the other?

Because the crazy fundamentalists aren't so gosh darn pathetically funny.

And if a Fundie did make a Bibel sekret saying they were Jezebel's diaphragm, they'd get just as mocked.

because ALL otherkin are "crazy fundamentalists" in this metaphor. Furries are the semi-acceptable-level-of-crazy christians, otherkin are the completely-unnacceptable-level-of-crazy people who spend their time messing around with poisonous snakes or teaching their children to do the same.

Not all of us do.

A lot of us spend our days in the exact same way as other people.

I'm human, 100%, my DNA is human, my body is human, but I feel more comfortable with the mental picture of myself as a wolf some of the time. My 'soul' is different. It's not like it's a huge earth shattering thing. It doesn't make me crazy, it doesn't make me 'unacceptable' with my friends. It just gives me a different perspective, different interests, and different feelings.

-A Wolf Therian

Do you actually literally believe your soul is a wolf? Or that you have something special past human imagination?

Because I can relate to a certain point to a lot of stuff otherkin talk about concerning identifying with animals/animalistic traits, so can most of humans throughout history apparently, but at no point do I ever feel the need to equate people thinking I'm silly for those feelings with the lgbt struggle for acceptance.

...and neither do the vast majority of otherkin to whom I've spoken. In fact, neither do any otherkin to whom I've spoken, although a number of confessed trolls posing as 'kin did.

Even if there are commonalities, which is dubious, the experiences of otherkin that are related to being otherkin are on nowhere near the level of those of LGBTQ people struggling for acceptance. Some 'kin are LGBTQ, of course, and that is where things start to get more complex.

If you only pick and choose from the Bible and do not believe that all of its words are true, you are not a real Christian.
If you just believe in a higher being/god/what have you, then you're "just" a deist.
Practice what you preach.

Lol no. Just, no.

Reading the Bible as a metaphor is not the same as cafeteria line religion.

Ah yes, the excuse that the Bible is just metaphorical.
Have seen it plenty of times.

Picking and choosing. Learning how to treat your slave is only a metaphor for... I dunno, and the good stuff is the true religion the "non-crazy" Christians all follow, right?

All that stuff about slaves in Leviticus? Written for and by the people who were living at that time (i.e the Jews). Christians didn't exist as a people at that time.

There's a reason why Christians are called what we're called. While our religion is informed by our shared past with the Jews and the words found in the Old Testament, the words of Christ and the New Testament are the foundation upon which our faith is built. Christ came to transform the Word and do away with all the old laws and traditions, including those very same laws from Leviticus.

So no, it's not picking and choosing. It's understanding what the hell my faith is all about, where it came from, and what it all means. So I'll thank you kindly to stop throwing your uneducated and insulting opinions at me.

i like you.

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Thank you! I'm so sick of people telling me that I have to believe in Old Testament Law to be a Christian. My law is this, Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind, and Love your neighbor as yourself. Those are the great commandments, they supercede everything that came before.