[ SECRET POST #2293 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2293 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

What American media does that? I'm genuinely curious because I feel like I must be overlooking something major.

[(Anonymous)]

I was just coming here to ask this. I can't think of any that's set outside of WWII era that's not over the top spoof, but I admittedly don't watch as much TV or as many movies as some.

(Okay, an exception to this would be Die Hard.)

[(Anonymous)]

Almost all your comedy programs? Especially the cartoon "satire" section like American Dad, Family Guy, The (old) Simpsons. But I also see it a lot in sitcoms and stand-up comedy.

There's so much to make fun of in my country, and yet it always boils down to "Bavarian at Oktoberfest" or "Nazi".

[(Anonymous)]

I like how your complaint here is that we aren't making ENOUGH fun of all the other things you feel should be made fun of :p

[(Anonymous)]

Err, no? I just think you can make fun of my nation without going back to Nazis all the fucking time.

I'm not one of those people who say "omg stop making fun of my nation, bawww". Al I want is just some spoofs I can actually relate to.
Because hey, I like to laugh at my nation. I'm just tired of the Nazi clichees and that's why I could actually laugh at Humon's depiction of MODERN Germany



:p

[(Anonymous)]

I'm Canadian, actually. I'm not asking because I'm defensive, I'm asking because it seems like something we should all be aware of and sadly I am not. It seems like a bigger deal to me than the American stereotypes in media about Canadians.

Those satire cartoons are just that: satire. Everything they do is over the top generalization based on outdated stereotypes.

I don't watch any sitcoms or stand up comics, so maybe that is why I haven't seen it. Could you share the names of some?

[(Anonymous)]

Tl;Dr coming up X)

"Those satire cartoons are just that: satire. Everything they do is over the top generalization based on outdated stereotypes"

Yes, I'm not nesseccarily complaining about that.
I was just answering the question.

This secret was about how the OP couldn't get most of the jokes in SATW and I was just saying that I, as a German, could laugh about Humon's depiction of Germany more than most of what I see on TV (a.k.a. American media).
It's over the top, it's clearly making fun of Germans, but in a way that has some truth to it.

For example the entire situation with Germans as tourists, that made me laugh real hard because Germans ARE embarrassing tourists and yet many countries need them to make enough money, so they (pretend to) love them anyways. That's much funnier to me than a goosestepping German tourist at the beach, because that's just a WWII callback and really lazy in terms of writing (because OP said it was bad writing on Humon's part).

And just to be safe, I'm not excusing Humon or saying she is amazing at what she does, because the comic has some serious problems (most of them Humon being a racist asshole) and that's why I stopped reading a long time ago.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that can be said of most comedy centered around other countries, though, regardless of whether its American media or not. Comedy pertaining to a certain country is going to be more nuanced within that country. You step outside the country itself, and a lot of comedy centers around outside perceptions of that country and stereotypes.

[mechanosapience]

To use an example, after Columbine, it was discovered that the shooters listened to, among other things, Rammstein and KMFDM, both German bands. Now, there was a lot of moralizing about the bands they listened to--all "devil music" as my folks would say--but it was assumed that because Rammstein and KMFDM were German, that they must be Nazis. This happens pretty much after every school shooting because the demographic most tied to school shootings is also associated with industrial, metal, shock rock, etc.