[ SECRET POST #2302 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2302 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 065 secrets from Secret Submission Post #329.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
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Comments

[fscom]

14. http://i.imgur.com/Oeby2yD.png?1

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think Harris is the type of writer to deliberately make a crappy book. Like them or not put it's pretty obvious that he puts a lot of work into his stuff in research alone, for example the Venice section in Hannibal.

And fwiw a lot of people did like Hannibal and the direction it took. It was hardly universally panned. (Hannibal Rising, on the other hand...))

[(Anonymous)]

*shrug* Well, either Harris did it on purpose or he flubbed badly. Hannibal was a turd sandwich, and Hannibal Rising wasn't a whole lot better. The former felt like someone's bad screenplay attempt and the latter was slightly more literary but still bad fanfiction. If he meant to write a shit novel, then at least the final result makes more sense.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, either Harris did it on purpose or he flubbed badly

How about, you just didn't like it? A lot of people did.

[amanuensis1]

I have always, always, always, always believed this.

"Stop asking for a sequel. You just want to see Lecter and Starling fuck. Go away. It would be ridiculous."
"I said go away."
"I said STOP."
"...all right, you asked for it."


(And yet, you notice, it's really well-done, for being ridiculous.)

[arianne]

I've always thought so too. And then when they tried to pester him again, they ended up with Hannibal Rising.

[silverr]

Yeah, except ... you lost me at " well-done" :p

I pretty much side with OP. I remember waiting in line for the midnight release of the book, rushing home, reading it nonstop, and then throwing the book across the room in fury and disgust at chapter 90 or so. (My memory---which could be wrong, I read it only the once---was that Clarice essentially became a blow-up doll by the end. Which just ... ugh. ~ The gourmet vivisection didn't phase me. The steering wheel sniffing was ... okay, it was both touching and hilarious. Even the freak who used the tears of children to make his martinis didn't bother me as much as Starling's vapification.)

*shrug* YMMV, obviously.

[amanuensis1]

I thought the text of it--the prose, I should specify--demonstrated we were dealing with an author who could write, but was choosing to take the plot somewhere kinda ludicrous. Should have qualified what I meant by "well-done," yeah.

[silverr]

Yeah, I get you now. As if he said, "I'll make this as ridiculous as possible---Bad FanFiction Friday levels!" ... but then the internal ethic wouldn't let him entirely slapdash it.

[(Anonymous)]

that Clarice essentially became a blow-up doll by the end. Which just ... ugh. ~

I wasn't super-thrilled with the rest of the book, but this was actually the part that interested me. Someone so awesome having that happen to her in the end is kind of amazing on a horror level.

(I seem to recall someone writing a fantastic follow-up fic to that, too, where Starling suddenly "wakes up" 6 years later and is like WTF it's go time.)

[(Anonymous)]

How'd she become a blowup doll? IIRC she was still Clarice at the end and Hannibal's attempts at turning her into his sister failed. Hannibal didn't force her to become his lover, that was her.

[silverr]

His sister? Well, I completely missed that, I guess.

As I recall, it was "her choice" while drugged. My definition of compliance doesn't include being drugged. (I concede I may not be remembering accurately, but the book had such a negative impact I have never had any wish to re-read it.)

[visp]

That did seem to be what was going on. Of course, it wouldn't be the first time an author went cray-cray and got too into their own character.

[(Anonymous)]

I heard that his publisher threatened to hire other authors to write sequels if Harris didn't do it himself.

I believe it.

[amanuensis1]

I could believe that one.

[(Anonymous)]

For Hannibal RISING yes. Not for Hannibal. Harris wrote that without any blackmail.

[(Anonymous)]

I predict lots of Hannibal/Silence of the Lambs/Red Dragon secrets since the TV has started, lol.

[(Anonymous)]

To me it made sense that instead of being praised and promoted for killing Buffalo Bill, Clarice was actually punished for it. The world Harris built was male-driven and I could see, with the exception of Crawford, that the higher ups wouldn't appreciate being shown up by a rookie.

So her career tanking like it did? Well done.

But to drive her half crazy and then send her on the run with Lecter was BEYOND crack writing. It only makes sense to me now if I think that Harris did it on purpose. *cackles*

After I read the book, I suddenly understood why Jodie Foster was "too busy" to do the movie.

[(Anonymous)]

If I remember right, she said she wouldn't do it if Jonathan Demme didn't direct. Which he didn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I thought it made sense. She seemed like she wasn't entirely well by the end of Silence of the Lambs (I suspect she suffered PTSD from her experiences) and in Hannibal I think it clearly established that her mental health was failing.

Not to mention, the FBI was everything to her. To have your hopes and dreams crushed like that would be incredibly disillusioning.

[(Anonymous)]

It was my favorite of the series to be honest (I know, blasphemy). I liked that it was damn creepy and it seemed more realistic to me that Clarice would have some mental health issues after all she had been through. Not to mention I enjoyed the fact that it didn't end with everything tied in a neat little bow with a typical Hollywood ending. It made me want to go back and reread it again to catch subtle nuances that I didn't pick up in the beginning.

[otakugal15]

I think you confused Hannibal with Hannibal Rising.

I, for one, LOVE Hannibal and the direction it went. Then again, I shipped them like whoa anyway.