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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-22 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2302 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2302 ⌋

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amanuensis1: (you're making this up)

[personal profile] amanuensis1 2013-04-22 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I have always, always, always, always believed this.

"Stop asking for a sequel. You just want to see Lecter and Starling fuck. Go away. It would be ridiculous."
"I said go away."
"I said STOP."
"...all right, you asked for it."


(And yet, you notice, it's really well-done, for being ridiculous.)
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[personal profile] arianne 2013-04-23 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I've always thought so too. And then when they tried to pester him again, they ended up with Hannibal Rising.
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[personal profile] silverr 2013-04-23 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, except ... you lost me at " well-done" :p

I pretty much side with OP. I remember waiting in line for the midnight release of the book, rushing home, reading it nonstop, and then throwing the book across the room in fury and disgust at chapter 90 or so. (My memory---which could be wrong, I read it only the once---was that Clarice essentially became a blow-up doll by the end. Which just ... ugh. ~ The gourmet vivisection didn't phase me. The steering wheel sniffing was ... okay, it was both touching and hilarious. Even the freak who used the tears of children to make his martinis didn't bother me as much as Starling's vapification.)

*shrug* YMMV, obviously.
Edited 2013-04-23 00:54 (UTC)
amanuensis1: (cavity search tiem!)

[personal profile] amanuensis1 2013-04-23 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I thought the text of it--the prose, I should specify--demonstrated we were dealing with an author who could write, but was choosing to take the plot somewhere kinda ludicrous. Should have qualified what I meant by "well-done," yeah.
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[personal profile] silverr 2013-04-23 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I get you now. As if he said, "I'll make this as ridiculous as possible---Bad FanFiction Friday levels!" ... but then the internal ethic wouldn't let him entirely slapdash it.
Edited (punctuation, dur) 2013-04-23 02:36 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
that Clarice essentially became a blow-up doll by the end. Which just ... ugh. ~

I wasn't super-thrilled with the rest of the book, but this was actually the part that interested me. Someone so awesome having that happen to her in the end is kind of amazing on a horror level.

(I seem to recall someone writing a fantastic follow-up fic to that, too, where Starling suddenly "wakes up" 6 years later and is like WTF it's go time.)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
How'd she become a blowup doll? IIRC she was still Clarice at the end and Hannibal's attempts at turning her into his sister failed. Hannibal didn't force her to become his lover, that was her.
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[personal profile] silverr 2013-04-23 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
His sister? Well, I completely missed that, I guess.

As I recall, it was "her choice" while drugged. My definition of compliance doesn't include being drugged. (I concede I may not be remembering accurately, but the book had such a negative impact I have never had any wish to re-read it.)
Edited (re-read comment I was replying to ) 2013-04-23 18:25 (UTC)
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[personal profile] visp 2013-04-23 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
That did seem to be what was going on. Of course, it wouldn't be the first time an author went cray-cray and got too into their own character.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-24 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I heard that his publisher threatened to hire other authors to write sequels if Harris didn't do it himself.

I believe it.
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[personal profile] amanuensis1 2013-04-24 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I could believe that one.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-24 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
For Hannibal RISING yes. Not for Hannibal. Harris wrote that without any blackmail.