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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-22 06:45 pm

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Re: help me catalog rape in Game of Thrones/ASOIAF

(Anonymous) 2013-04-22 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
rough memory but

the mobs attack Joffrey and the kingsguard in King's Landing, Sansa gets separated from them and chased by a bunch of dudes who look like they're about to rape her before Sandor Clegane I think shows up.

It's talked about in the book of the possibility of Brienne being raped by hers/Jaime's captors. In the show last night he talks them out of doing so.

In both: Daenerys stops her khalasar from raping women in a village they're sacking (or whatever). Also, her first time with Drogo is seen by a lot of people as rape. (I like to cling to the book version, which was way more consensual.)

Also in both, I don't know if Craster rapes his wives (daughters) but I wouldn't be surprised. And there's other implied rape, but I forget every instance tbh.
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Re: help me catalog rape in Game of Thrones/ASOIAF

[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-04-23 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, this is very helpful.
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Re: help me catalog rape in Game of Thrones/ASOIAF

[personal profile] itstopped 2013-04-23 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
IDK, I prefer Dany/Drogo in the books as well but it's still pretty much rape. What he does to her after their wedding night is definitely rape.

Also, I just remembered that I'm pretty sure in the books the Night's Watch rebels rape Craster's daughterwives after they kill Craster.

Re: help me catalog rape in Game of Thrones/ASOIAF

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
on their wedding night or after? if on the wedding night then maybe I need to read it again. what it seemed like was she didn't really WANT to, but in the end she was willing. afterwards when he just comes into their tent drunk at night - yeah that was always rape-y.

yeah that (Craster's wives) happened in the books, and in the show last night. you don't see much of it but it's pretty obvious it's happening/will happen. there's just so much other shit happening at the same time is all.
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Re: help me catalog rape in Game of Thrones/ASOIAF

[personal profile] itstopped 2013-04-23 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
After their wedding night it's pretty unambiguously rape. On their wedding night, in the book, it's a pretty gray area. She is ultimately willing and I personally like that scene a lot, but there is the fact that she was sold to the guy and she has absolutely no ability to actually say no, even if she ultimately does say yes.

Re: help me catalog rape in Game of Thrones/ASOIAF

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Martin seems to have a thing with Brienne being threatened with rape. When the knights in Renly's train start up their betting pool, with the winner being the one who finally gets Brienne into bed, Lord Randyll Tarly puts a stop to it because, he says, it was "only a matter of time before one of them claimed his prize by force"--but he blames Brienne, as if she incited them. Later, in Maidenpool, Tarly tells her that if she won't go home to Tarth, she has only herself to blame when she is raped. Shagwell threatens to rape her (before she kills him), and Rorge does the same. And that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.