[ SECRET POST #2314 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2314 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[silverr]

Yeah, the "Wear "Em Down" strategy (aka When No Means Maybe, Just Keep After Them til They Give In) .....

It plays a lot better IRL: A chases B. B says no. A goes away without acting like an enema nozzle, and SOMETIMES B MIGHT change their mind about A.

Sometimes. Maybe. After years. MIGHT.

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes. Maybe. After years. MIGHT.

No, actually, some people change their minds a lot faster and easier than that. WTF is wrong with you, saying that if someone asks you and you say no, you're bound to that "no" for years? Or that it's stupid and unrealistic to change your mind after a short time? "MIGHT". Oh come on. Yeah, it's sooooooo improbable that a person might change their mind. Fuck you.

The problem with both your bullshit AND the bullshit scenario the OP is rightly criticizing is that you're both stripping the female character of her right to make choices. If she wants to say yes right away, that's fine. If she wants to say yes after a week, that's fine. If she want to say yes after a few months, that's fine. If she wants to say yes after years, that's also fine. But it's up to HER, not up to anything the guy does to convince her or wear her down. (It also works gender-flipped, but it's much more often this way around).

Fuck you and your bullshit dictating for how female characters should react to guys.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. You might want to see someone about your anger and displacement issues.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you "Tumblr is quality so stop oppressing us!" anon?

[(Anonymous)]

This made me laugh so hard. Thanks

[(Anonymous)]

LOL! Sounds like them, or a close relation, anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Reply of the year.

[(Anonymous)]

YES, THIS. it's one thing if the rejected character outright ignores the "no" and won't leave her alone, but i see that more in terrible Rom Coms than i've seen in shows spanning several seasons. i've experienced BOTH in real life. a guy i rejected continued to nag and push and be creepy and i ended up cutting off all ties with him. another guy i rejected respected the "no" and we continued being friends and months later we ended up getting together (and we're married now, so... i think it worked out okay)

[silverr]

fwiw (though I assume your YES THIS was to the anon you replied to), I've experienced both the situations you describe (and that's what I was clumsily trying to say in my previous comment: when the chaser backs off and acts like a reasonable person, sometimes you change your mind about them. But you usually don't about those who don't respect the initial "Not interested".)

[silverr]

Sorry I pissed you off so much, anon, by not comprehensively listing every possible scenario and end result of "A chases B, B initially says no."

/shrug

P.S. and after reading your response again, I think I know what happened here - did you think I was SUPPORTING that "pester her til she says yes" type of scenario"

Ah, no, no, a thousand times no. My comment giving alternate names was meant to be snide and snarky and eye-rolling and disapproving. ~ Sorry I wasn't clearer.

[darkmanifest]

"Stripping the female character of her right to make choices"? She's...she's fictional. Every choice she makes is in the mind of her creator, and yeah, I will side-eye a creator who has a female character panting after a creepy dude who uses the "wear her down" method of "flirting".

[ariakas]

Characters don't make "choices". Characters aren't real. Authors make choices. It's the authors we criticize.