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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-04 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2314 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2314 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
example? the two shows off the top of my head I can think of (Castle and Bones) the man wasn't all persistent and nagging for those first few seasons or anything outside of mild flirting (which the woman did too)... the relationships just progressed later on. If there IS a show where the man nags and nags for several seasons and she finally caves that's one thing, but like i said... example? because i'm curious and can't think of any i've seen

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-05-04 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
One) People's relationships change over time
Two) This implies that women are always passive in the relationship (apparently it is ONLY men who can initiate and start a relationship).

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[personal profile] silverr 2013-05-04 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the "Wear "Em Down" strategy (aka When No Means Maybe, Just Keep After Them til They Give In) .....

It plays a lot better IRL: A chases B. B says no. A goes away without acting like an enema nozzle, and SOMETIMES B MIGHT change their mind about A.

Sometimes. Maybe. After years. MIGHT.

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-05-04 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem to be projecting a scenario from one show onto all shows in which the male and female protagonists get together. Not all shows conform to the pattern you described in such weird detail here.
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never seen anything like that, but I don't watch much television. People at work are always talking about what they watch and I've never heard anyone mention a show where something like has happened.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me guess - Psych?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm... The only TV relationship I can think of off the top of my head that conformed to this is JD and Elliot from SCRUBS, and to be honest, that one annoyed the HELL out of me. JD chased Elliot for YEARS and sabotaged each one of her relationships, but that was apparently OKAY because they were "meant" to be together? Ugh.

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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-05-04 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"she'll want to be him eventually"

yeah, I know it's just a typo, but I'd like to see a show like this.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm...Damon/Elena from The Vampire Diaries, Eric/Sookie from True Blood. Maybe Buffy/Spike from BTVS, though the romantic pursuing didn't happen right away...Can't think of any other examples off the top of my head. I guess Scandal could fit that mold but since they were actually together before the show started, it's not exactly the same.

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[personal profile] blunderbuss 2013-05-04 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well of course they'd end up together, because we all know that it's impossible for a male and female to be friends/coworkers/partners/in the same room without ~sexual tension~, amirite? (gag)

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I was friend with this guy all throughout college and never wanted anything further with him because he wasn't really my type and I wasn't interested in having a relationship, anyway. We ended up working at the same place after college and I don't know, something just seemed to click. Suddenly he just seemed funnier, cuter, and more interesting. I don't even know WHY. I guess it was because with college over I finally started thinking about dating, and he was there and he liked me and for the first time since I met him I became AWARE of him.

Anyway, I asked him out a few months after I started really considering him that way. We're engaged now (wedding is this August!) and I still sometimes find myself wondering what the hell happened. I don't regret it-- I love the hell out of him-- but still.

Anyway, that's probably why stuff like this doesn't bother me, because I KNOW it can happen. Sometimes you don't really fall for someone until after you've spent a long time getting to know them, or until YOU'RE ready, and etc.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
That's usually not the message I get out of it, but I am desperately sick of "men and women together can't be just friends, they'll get together eventually, that's way it is~" tropes and mentality.

Which is why I am so extremely, sorely disappointed in Bones and so happy with Elementary.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-05-04 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
This secret made me think of Family Matters for the first time in years. I loved Urkel, and he could be really sweet sometimes, but he was literally a stalker who constantly disrespected Laura's demands he leave her alone for years (and did really creepy shit like have her measurements for his locker combination code), and sure I laughed when it was played as an awkward joke, but when she finally cracked like an egg and got with him in the end? It was awful. Even as a kid I knew that wasn't correct.
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[personal profile] dancing_clown 2013-05-04 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what I absolutely cannot fucking stand? How whenever a couple gets together on a show, internet nitwits start assigning motivation and opinions to the writers/creators like "obviously she's not worthy as a person unless she is with a man!"

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Why hello there, Damon/Elena.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. Well now I sort of feel bad because this is exactly how I met and grew to love my husband. I wanted nothing to do with his arrogant ass but he doggedly persisted, and eventually through working together I learned of his good traits and fell in love. We've been married 6 years now and we're crazy about each other. Oops?

/agrees it is still overdone as a trope but uhh it's not THAT unrealistic

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
What I think you were trying to say, OP, is that the trope of "Will they/Won't they", where the girl is sort of "cold" towards the guy, and they don't get together until the final Season, has some creepy undertones of "if a guy is persistent enough the girl will say yes".

IA, I hate that kinda thing. Mostly b/c I've met guys like that in real life, and the more persistent they were, the more I avoided them. It can be kinda creepy if you're on the "receiving" end of really obsessive attention.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
It's the Moonlighting curse. If you base a show on sexual tension, they can only bait each other for so long before it's ludicrous that they haven't hooked up. Once they do, it usually ruins the dynamic.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
House was completely ruined after he and Cuddy got together.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. I love the Leela/Fry relationship, and I'm really happy the show is going to end with them getting married. Sometimes it isn't so bad.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
You've just described exactly what I hate about Gia/Jake in Power Rangers Megaforce.

Sometimes, it doesn't even take multiple seasons, anon.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, OP. Especially when the show isn't a romantic comedy and the relationship feels like it's very artificial, put there for fans and/or ratings.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Why I gave up on The West Wing.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yeeeah, I do hate when it does happen in a show - though, thankfully, it isn't used to play up as a joke as often as it used to be. What I hate more is when guys actually think this in real life [and yes, I've run across it, sadly.]