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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-05 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2315 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That bottom middle guy looks like James McAvoy.

And meh, your reasons to read a book are your reasons.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-05-05 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. It's your business, man.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I think if a straight dude made a secret saying that they're much more likely to read a book by a female author if they find the author attractive, people would have a problem with it, more than they do in this case.

But it's possible the two situations aren't entirely analogous... a lot of it depends on the way it's said and the way that the attraction is conceptualized, and it seems like, in the one case, it tends to diminish, and in the other to augment, the talent and ability of the writer. In the case of people saying it about female writers, I think it tends to be seen as something outside of and unrelated to their ability, whereas I think with male authors it often is expressed in a way that includes their ability as a writer.

I don't know, maybe that's nonsense, just thinking out loud here.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That's Anton Chekhov ♥

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
You can't be sexist against men.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
GTFO

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

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[personal profile] brooms 2013-05-05 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
pretty ppl lead more interesting lives & it comes across in their writing!!!

i kid

...or do i?
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-05-05 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, usually I have no idea what the author looks like before I read their works. Unless it's Shakespeare of Pushkin, of course.
And then I don't really understand the concept of "attractiveness" in regard to sexuality.

I am, however, aesthetically attracted to the authors I like. It works the other way round: I like their fiction -> I like their personality -> I like their appearance.

So I really, really like a lot of people whom others would probably find unattractive. I even start smiling when I see them.

(and you have KAFKA there. Awwww.)

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[personal profile] helenadax 2013-05-05 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get why you think that's so important, tbh. It isn't as if you had to watch their faces while you're reading. But read whatever you want, of course.

[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2013-05-05 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Mainly it's just stupid. But hey, it's your loss.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This author is attractive --> I am interested in this author --> I am more likely to read this author's works -- I don't think that's sexist.

Should I read this? --> check author's attractiveness --> attractiveness is deciding factor in whether to read -- that's... maybe sexist? I'm not sure what that is.

I couldn't tell you what most authors look like.

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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-05-05 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
This doesn't sound sexist. It sounds shallow, but hey, as long as you're reading, who cares?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Purely here to ask whether that's China Mieville in the top right, because I've been wondering whether he has a fandom and this is the first time he's occurred in my fandom periphery.

/off-topic anon, away!

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Shallow, perhaps, but if you're attracted to men and not to women that's not "sexist".
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[personal profile] silverau 2013-05-05 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't call it sexist. I would call it stupid.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It's shallow. It's not sexist because you're not refusing to read a book because they're male. It's not really hurting anyone but maybe yourself if you're missing out on a good book because the guy's missing an eye and has no teeth or something.

I'd say the same were the sexes reversed.

Even if you refused to read a book written by a man (or a man, by a woman.) well it's your prerogative who gives a shit.

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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-05-05 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read books, because I haven't trusted an authors picture. If an authors picture looks slimy/horribly fake, I won't read the book. It's only happened a few times tho and the books were crap anyways.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Mhhh, let me explain why I think sexism isn't always "OMG SEXISM".

We're always taught that a man's looks don't affect his personality, that there can be a gem hidden in a rough, dirty crust of mud.
We see it every day in fiction. The girls always learn that the sexy hot guy can be an ass and the geek with acne can be a Prince Charming. But when it's the other way around, the ugly girl always gets some sort of make-over in the end a.k.a. she wasn't really ugly in the first place, just unpopular and badly dressed.

And in the media female politicians and similar female people get much more critisized for how they look or what they're wearing than for what they have to say.

That's why I'm not especially bothered when women like you want to read stuff that's written by guys they find attractive.
It's more like a "strive against the stream" to me than "omg yuck, I don't give a shit what ugly men have to say".
When it's not taught by society, to me, it has no real negative effects on the people within that society.

So are you being a sexist? Yeah, probably. But you're not harming men at large in what you're doing.
What you definitely do is judging a book literally by it's cover ;P
Not a good habit.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
If I like the work of a male author, I develop a crush on him, and am likely to find him attractive in pictures even if he's older.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That's lookism, not sexism. If you'd said it about female rather than male authors, you could call it sexism because one sexist stereotype about women is that their attractiveness is their most important characteristic. But since that stereotype is rarely applied to men (pretty much the only exceptions are boyband members/popstars and actors), in this case it's lookism instead.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
is that you?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-06 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
That's flat out weird.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-06 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That's more shallow than sexist.
I personally think that's stupid because the author's appearance does NOT play an active part so I don't really get why it would be important. Hell, for most of the books I read I don't even know what the author looks like, nor do I care. It's the quality of writing that counts.
Still, whatever rows your boat. I just personally don't really get it.