[ SECRET POST #2315 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2315 ⌋

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Comments

[forgottenjester]

Me too. I almost feel like sometimes a happy ending is harder to write because we're so used to the unhappy ending occurring in real life. We expect it so it isn't a big deal. But when a happy ending happens it must be explained and earned. I'm not saying that I think happy endings shouldn't have to have this qualifier though, because I think that having them makes the happy endings we do get better. What I'm saying is that I think sad endings should have to fit this kind of requirement too. Because I have seen so many poorly done "bad endings" simply because the author thought that would be deep and didn't think about much beyond that.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

Sad endings and depressing themes are too readily welcomed without any question.

Sad and tragic stuff is all too often falling under the territory of "It was a dark and stormy night."

[elephantinegrace]

I want to frame this comment and show it to everyone who thinks sad endings are better.

[(Anonymous)]

I read the comment. Very well written, interesting perspective. I still have to respectfully disagree. I think sad endings are better. This is my personal opinion. Are you going to tell me I'm wrong?

[(Anonymous)]

You are wrong.

In addition, you are adopted.

[(Anonymous)]

This could go one of two ways. I could play along and say, HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT? Or I can just go ahead and say what I'm really thinking: How long did it take for you to come up with that gem, you witty commenter, you?

[(Anonymous)]

I've been working on that one for nigh on eighty years, fortunately I was also working on a time machine during that time too otherwise it would have been a wasted life.

P.S. be nicer to Somalia, they own everything now since the Beliebers collapsed Western Civilization, including the mechanical rape-gorillas they use to enforce their vengeful will upon us.

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[forgottenjester]

I actually am adopted.

I'm sorry. I ruin jokes.

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[(Anonymous)]

What you didn't know was that you were adopted twice, one time you were sent back as defective.

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[forgottenjester]

It's because of my genetics, isn't it? Hey, I promised I wouldn't pass those on.

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[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I got nouthin' so you win. For that I'd offer to have your babies, but apparently that is out.

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[forgottenjester]

I can adopt your babies.

Yeeeessssssss, I'm a winnerrrrrrr

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[(Anonymous)]

You haven't seen my babies yet!

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[forgottenjester]

I have because I can see the future. It's true because I just made it up.

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[(Anonymous)]

Can you tell what the next line in the joke is?

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[forgottenjester]

That I'm a joke?

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[(Anonymous)]

Close, but one of my babies was so bad that he had to be adopted twice...

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[forgottenjester]

Are you saying I adopted myself?

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[(Anonymous)]

Funny old world, isn't it.

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[forgottenjester]

Touché. You win. Today.

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[(Anonymous)]

It was a pleasure joking around with you. Why can't we have more threads like this?

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[(Anonymous)]

omfg this entire thread <3

[(Anonymous)]

Just because you like sad endings doesn't mean they are inherently better. Just that you prefer them to happy endings.

So, you're not wrong to prefer them, but you are wrong that they are inherently better.

[elephantinegrace]

Holee sheetballs, I did NOT expect this many replies.

I wanted to say that sad endings are not intrinsically better than happy endings. In fact, I like sad endings better than happy endings, but I know people who think that sad endings are better by their very nature, and I think those people are full of bull.

[(Anonymous)]

IMO, the problem isn't so much that unhappy endings are more common in real life as it is that a lot of writers, both fic and pro, can't write an ending to save their life. They rush the resolution, or they write something unintentionally horrifying, or they realize at the eleventh hour that they've written themselves into a corner and have to decide between an asspull and a rocks-fall ending. Sad endings tend to get away with it more easily because they generally follow the overall momentum of the story - if you have 60 chapters of bleak circumstances and things looking like they might just be hopeless, it isn't a shock when they turn out to actually be hopeless in chapter 61, even if it can be incredibly unsatisfying. On the other hand, if they turn around suddenly and everything wraps up happily, you have mood whiplash and cranky readers, not because the ending's happy, but because it's poorly executed. (Which does leave a lot of room for personal mileage varying, and you certainly do get the opposite situation sometimes, where the plot is trundling along happily and then SUDDEN UNAVOIDABLE CLIFF WITH GIANT RABID SHARKS AT THE BOTTOM.)

There's also the problem of what to classify as a happy ending. When a lot of people (not all, possibly not even most, but a lot) talk about happy endings, they're talking about some variation on "good guys win, hero gets the girl, everyone we're supposed to care about lives happily ever after" unequivocally happy endings. The sad endings category frequently gets to host the bittersweet delegation, which covers the entire range of "mostly happy but with a note of loss" to "mostly bleak but with a ray of hope", which means there are a lot more options to play with, and it ends up suiting a wider range of story tones largely by default.