[ SECRET POST #2315 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2315 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 081 secrets from Secret Submission Post #331.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Because my primary experience with using any sort of fandom for language learning has always been with weeaboos who only want to learn Japanese so they don't have to read the subtitles while watching anime. Fully half the kids in my Elementary Japanese I class had this and only this as their endgame for learning the language. It was obnoxious. They were obnoxious. It left a foul taste in my mouth.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

How is that obnoxious? I can see how someone could be obnoxious about it, but in-and-of itself, I don't see how wanting to learn Japanese to watch anime or read manga is obnoxious. It's a hobby and an entertainment and they probably got pride and enjoyment out of both the effort and the payoff of their language studying.

Not everyone can or is willing to take a trip to Japan or get a job as a translator. Learning a language just to learn it, or just to get a different experience with media in it, seems just a legitimate to me. It's still an increase in the number of people who are speaking and keeping the language alive.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Because the way they behaved about it was obnoxious.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

So if, for example, someone learned English just to read the Harry Potter's books without waiting months for the official translation, you would find them just as obnoxious or you just hate anime/manga fans?

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

If in any given conversation the longer one communicated with them the probability of mentioning Harry Potter approached one, God yes. It's nice to have interests. Everybody has interests. Some people take it too far.

Re: OP

[astridv]

I fail to see what's obnoxious about that. So, hang on... it's not okay if someone wants to learn German just so they can read, like, Goethe in the original? Or maybe that's fine because hey, Goethe is Culture. But it's frowned upon if it's for Gute Zeiten, Schlechte Zeiten because that's lowly pop culture? How about my mom who learned Polish for the sole reason so she could converse with her Polish boyfriend?

What's it to you what anyone's motivations for learning a foreign language are. Who cares, what counts is that they do it. It's great. If there's something that motivates you, even better. Yours is such a snobby attitude.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Looks to me more like you're looking for reasons to find me snobby, and the whole point of this secret was 'oh hey, I get it now. Sorry.'

But since you asked...because they were very obnoxiously vocal about it (not like I haven't said this before, but...), and I guess because the loudest and most obnoxious people area always the ones who leave an impression, I've had a bad impression ever since. I really don't give a shit what other people do, but if they almost have no personality outside of it, I lose patience quickly. OMG I KNOW JAPANESE I WATCH ANIMUUUUU I KNOW THE CULTURRR BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I learnt English from watching subbed TV shows and reading fanfiction with the help of a dictionary. I'm currently doing my undergrad in an English-speaking university. While my initial goal was not academia, but more along the lines of thinking it would be fun to be able to watch stuff without subs and actually understand what the people were saying, the simple desire to learn has brought me much further than I ever dared to dream. Similarly, it was contemporary cinema that sparked my interest in French, but I've been delighted to realise that I can now read Corneille and Voltaire without much trouble.

I think any reason of wanting to learn a language is a good one - any reason of wanting to learn anything, overall. Having big and impressive goals is great, but that can be intimidating to many people. (Myself included.) Even if your initial endgame is wanting to watch anime without subs, you never know where it's eventually going to take you.