[ SECRET POST #2329 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2329 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

02. http://oi39.tinypic.com/35d3zet.jpg

[dreemyweird]

Me too! Although this is an odd sentiment. I don't think Snape himself likes the place.

[sootyowl]

I like when he's in Spinner's end as well in fics. Generally they are more angsty... But when I need a cheer up fic, I like the ones were he's got himself a cabin in the woods.

[seventh_seal]

Yeah, Snape has no manor, people. The Princes probably disinherited his mom and he comes from a working class background. That's why he tries so hard with his speech.

His father was abusive and Spinner's End must hold some gloomy memories - and its surrounded by filthy muggles. And yet, Snape keeps it and comes there every summer. God, I love fucked-up Snape. Not refined super-powerful charming gentleman Snape.

EDIT: And looking at the picture, I also have to add that I hate Rickman!Snape. Sorry for making your secret all about me, OP, but I'm with you on Spinner's End.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god, I really dislike Rickman!Snape as well, and everyone seems to think this is blasphemy. He doesn't even LOOK like Snape is supposed to, but now it's changing the way people perceive the book character. A lot of fans are actually surprised when I bring up quotes from the book where he's described as looking like a spider or a dying plant, where he's got yellowing and crooked teeth, where he's constantly hunched over rather than like tall and majestic... oi.

[seventh_seal]

Exactly. Alan Rickman may be a good actor but he really doesn't physically match the description of Snape in the books and in my opinion he is too stiff and still and contained ... Of course, the other actors are also way old, etc., I just wish people stopped projecting movie canon over book canon because it does. not. fit.

Snape in the books is this skinny ugly guy in his thirties. I perceive him as way more energetic and angry. He's bitter and hateful and sometimes irrational and yet he finds it in himself to do these incredibly brave things for people who despise him. I love this Snape so much.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 to this!

Late comment is late, but my main complaint about Rickman Snape is that he's too composed. Book Snape is one angry motherfucker; it's like he's full of barely-contained (or not contained at all in PoA) rage and bitterness ALL THE TIME. Also, I miss his gift for figuring out the kind of personal insults that will sting an individual the most, and then actually using it, lol. Movie Snape is like, secretly noble slightly sarcastic teacher, and it's boring as hell.

[philstar22]

I can understand not liking Rickman!Snape because he really isn't book!Snape. For me personally, I prefer him because his Snape is toned down enough that I can actually find him sympathetic. He's still messed up, but some of the most distasteful aspects of Snape aren't there or at least aren't quite as obvious. But for those who do like book!Snape, it makes sense that they may not like movie!Snape.

[seventh_seal]

Sure, everyone sees it differently and I think a lot of book fans are satisfied with Rickman because he fits their interpretation of book Snape. I just don't see it that way. I don't enjoy the movies very much, period ;)

About Snape being sympathetic - they really did try to make him into a misunderstood hero in DH part 2, didn't they. But to me, it's the "distasteful" parts that I also like about him. He is a jerk, but he also does some admirable things and that makes him a complex, ambiguous, intriguing character.

[philstar22]

Book!Snape reminds me too much of some teachers I had as a child, so he brings up things that make it impossible for me to like his character. I can see that he is a well written and complex character, I just can't like him. For me, the movie is easier to handle because we only see his nastiness towards Harry and not towards Neville and Hermione.

OP here

[(Anonymous)]

It's okay, I pretty much agree with everything you said !
(I wouldn't go as far as saying that I hate Rickman!Snape but I wasn't fond of him either.)

[lex_antonia]

I agree with every word of this!

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I can't take your Rickman!Snape disdain seriously if you think Snape "tries so hard" with his speech and thinks, by the Trio's era, that muggles are "filthy." Oh, wait. I keep forgetting, people aren't allowed to grow after being offensive. Once repulsive, always repulsive, amirite?

[seventh_seal]

You have a different interpretation of Snape than me. You are entitled to yours and I am entitled to mine. I assume he is also your favorite HP character, but I honestly have no desire to get into a conversation about Snape's growth with an aggressive anon.

[(Anonymous)]

There isn't really any evidence that he changed his views on that though. When he got pissed at Phineas Nigellus for calling Hermione a "mudblood", you could easily interpret that as simply him disliking the word that was the last straw in his friendship with Lily. Otherwise we don't get anything on his change of views.

He did grow in the sense that he saw value in human life, even if he didn't particularly like them. In PoA he was going to happily condemn Remus to a fate worse than death based on his own assumptions--and no evidence--that Remus had helped out Sirius get into the castle, but in DH we find out he did try to save Remus' life in the 7 Potter sequence. So... there's that.

[(Anonymous)]

Always

[math_camel]

I have an emotional attachment to Spinners End. It was our first look at what The Professors did over the summer, it was a look at Snape's life, and it housed an amazing chapter.

I loved, and still love, that Snape didn't live in a huge estate or in the middle of the woods surrounded by natural potion ingredients or a stylish flat in London. No. He lives in his childhood home in a run down mill town. Of course he does.

[thelonebamf]

Yes, this! I loved Spinners End so much I made it my username on some sites. I think the house has so much character and it's such a great insight into his self-loathing nature. It's a crappy house, but the man can use magic. There's no reason it has to be falling apart and filthy.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate fics with 'Snape: Lord of Slytherin'. I remember when the book came out and some people were horrified that Snape lived in Spinner's end and not some glorious mansion: the tears were delicious.

[(Anonymous)]

What the heck? The fandom's view of Snape can be so ridiculous. This whole sex god thing people have with him makes me laugh because lets be honest, he probably died a virgin.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't imagine any Death Eater remaining a virgin for long.

[(Anonymous)]

This just really annoys me about the Harry Potter fandom in general. It is so difficult to find fics that comply to the canon of the last few books.

[(Anonymous)]

totally agree with you there. I really like the way that the story ended (minus the epilogue) and thought that it was very well done. So many people are like 'lalala weee ignores HBP and DH' and while those fics are good, they don't really jive with what I've always interpreted as the story so I get irritated by them.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, a lot of fic was written way before book six. Or do people still write Snape living in manors?

In other news, the Snape-is-secretly-rich trope is such a blast from the past. Oh, those golden days of Harry Potter fandom. /nostalgia

OP

[(Anonymous)]

People still do it which is why I made the secret.
I only started to read fic after book 6 so this trope always seemed weird to me (and I already thought he must have been poor because of some details in "Snape's worst memory" from book 5 anyway)