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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-20 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2330 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2330 ⌋

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nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

*looks down at own arm muscles* Uh-oh

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-05-21 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
My arms are noodles, let's get that straight right from the get-go. Uncooked noodles, practically.

I used to be able to lift over 150 lbs without breaking a sweat. I stopped working out for a couple years, and now that I'm getting back into it, I'm lucky if I can lift 50lbs without collapsing.

But here's the thing: in the intervening years, my arms didn't really change shape or size. Oh, sure, the muscle mass softened and there was even some fat at times, but the only way you could actually tell was by squeezing my arms. Otherwise, my arm before and after looks pretty much the same.

Also, Natasha's first and foremost job is to be a spy, not a soldier or a combat operative. Looking weak without actually being weak would be pretty important.

So while I can understand the frustration with the body types, ScarJo was actually a pretty good selection, balancing both the combat and the seduction aspects of her character.
Edited 2013-05-21 03:07 (UTC)
ariakas: (Default)

Re: *looks down at own arm muscles* Uh-oh

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-05-21 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Women mostly build lean muscle. Very few have enough testosterone to really bulk up without artificial enhancements or years of weight training. Doesn't mean that lean muscle isn't strong as hell though.

That said, it's painful to watch when her stunt doubles have a completely different (and usually much more athletic) body type than ScarJo. Especially that scene in Iron Man 2 where they pasted her face onto the stunt double's body for all of the kicks and flips... hoooooly uncanny valley.
nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: *looks down at own arm muscles* Uh-oh

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-05-21 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
I have a good friend who does a lot of weight training, and from the outside she looks like she's curvy and soft (though she is on the tall side). It's not until she lifts you up in a bear hug - or lifts you up period - that people realize how damn fucking strong she is.

Though honestly, this could be said for a lot of my friends. In my main social group, about half of us work out. But most people can't tell because most of the half that works out are women, and we look the same as the ones that don't work out, so it's hard to tell from the outside looking in that anyone other than the few athletic guys have muscle (and, often, a lot of it!).
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Re: *looks down at own arm muscles* Uh-oh

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-05-21 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
from the outside she looks like she's curvy and soft

That's 100% body fat content, of course. Muscles only start to stand out when that gets pretty low. Hence why the World's Strongest Man competitors look nothing like bodybuilders or even athletes - they don't bother to cut, because cutting does nothing for your strength. It's all aesthetics. And they don't bother with cardio like the athletes either, because they don't need it.

On the flipside, you'd know the second you so much as glanced at me that I work out, because I have very low body fat. When I'm not strong I look like a rack of bones. When I am, every muscle I build stands out, my veins pop, etc. Of course... many of these female characters are definitely portrayed as having very low body fat as well, so if they were jacked, you'd see it, too. And yet, ew, no muscle on gurls guys!!!