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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-23 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2333 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-05-23 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
this

My cousin has severe autism (as in he's low functioning, wears diapers and a helmet so he won't hurt himself and will never be able to live by himself). OP's brother may be similar. I'm glad people on the internet are trying to bring awareness to people with autism but I feel like low-functioning autistics are pretty much being swept under the rug by a lot of them. I know some people who won't even acknowledge that there are low functioning autistics, as if they're an embarrassment to other people on the spectrum. It's a bit frustrating sometimes. Not saying that the person you're responding to is doing that by any means, but I guess I got off track

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-23 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm really not interested in a dozen allistic people telling me how their autistic family members are completely helpless and useless, thanks.

(And people "sweep low-functioning autistics under the rug" because they really don't exist, at least not the way allistics see them.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-23 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
You have GOT to be trolling right now.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-23 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, go fuck yourself. I never said my cousin was useless. He's a wonderful, friendly boy and we all love him dearly. But that doesn't change the fact that he needs constant care and he does, unfortunately, occasionally have violent mood swings. This is the reality for some people with autism. I'm sorry his existence offends you for some reason.

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-23 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I am incapable of living on my own. I need to be prompted to eat, to sleep, to perform basic hygiene tasks, because otherwise I would forget completely. I'm not always capable of communicating verbally, and I lashed out in anger quite frequently when I was younger.

I'm not offended by my own existence. I'm offended by the way you've decided what I, and people like me, can and can't accomplish.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-23 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Great! You are a success story. I guess you get to dictate what every other person with autism can do! Are you the queen or king of all people with autism?

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-24 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
No, but I'm a lot more qualified to speak on the subject than allistics are.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
na

as someone else with autism could you maybe...stop speaking about the subject? it's embarrassing

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Shut the fuck up about how you know everything because of YOUR CASE. You're an idiot.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
as someone with autism who cannot live alone and cannot care for myself fully without assistance I am telling you to shut up and go away

you are offensive and embarrassing

and STOP USING THE WORD 'ALLTISTICS' it is stupid and childish and humiliating

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, you're an high-functioning autistic person, we get it. However, that does not give you the right to speak for everyone with an ASD. I have met many, many people with autism because of I actually have THREE family members who are autistic (and as such we're part of the ASD community), and none of them are HFAs.

It's great that you have such pride in your disorder, okay? But you need to open your eyes and realize that no everyone is as privileged as you are, and not everyone sees it that way.

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-24 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not actually "high-functioning", though! That is the point that you apparently missed.

Autism doesn't reduce a person to a drooling, mindless shell. Society does that.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Just the fact that you can argue on the Internet is more than many autistic people can do. You know what I would give for my cousin to be able to browse the 'Net? Heck, or even read and write? Do you know how lucky you are?

Yes, there are autistic people who are definitely intelligent even if they lack effective communication skills. But why leave them with that disadvantage if there were other options.

If they somehow discovered a way for her to be cured (because yes, it IS a disorder), my entire family would scrap up every penny we had just so that she'd have a chance of living a normal life.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
You're obviously not high functioning, because if you were, you'd comprehend just how much of a cunt you're being. And THAT is why you'll never get anywhere, not the fact that you've (supposedly) got some degree of Autism.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I literally have done nothing of the sort? My cousin can barely communicate and he definitely isn't able to use the internet and he probably will never be able to because he has severe, low functioning autism. It's like you think that no one could possibly be more autistic than you and that since you are able to perform certain tasks now, then everyone should be able to. that isn't how it works. just because he's autistic doesn't mean we don't cherish him, but the severity of his disorder means he will just never accomplish certain, basic things that most people do and we've all had to accept that about him and we don't love him any less. that also doesn't mean he's worth less as a person. I don't know why you can't handle this idea

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-24 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Is he unable to use the Internet, or do you just think he's unable to use the Internet?

I "can't handle this idea" because autism doesn't reduce someone to a mindless shell. It just doesn't! That's not how it works! People with autism can still think. They can communicate, if they're given ways to do that. The problem is that society has decided that autism is bad, and there's no point in trying to communicate with autistics, so they never get the opportunity to prove that they can.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Then I wouldn't really want you to have a wand, either. You wouldn't be any worse than some people they already give wands to, I suppose, but I am not okay with irrational outbursts of anger no matter what medical reason you have.

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-24 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Anger and violence in autistics isn't a symptom of autism. It's frustration, and an attempt to communicate.

Autistic people don't lash out because they want to hurt people. They do it because people aren't listening and anger gets people's attention.

(Some autistic people do genuinely wish people harm, of course. Just like some allistic people wish other people harm.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
So who prompts you to be a dick on the internet? I'm assuming you have someone.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-23 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
holy shit, you're a cunt and I can't wait to see your further batshittery in this thread

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-23 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd just like to say that I'm really glad I decided to check out fandom secrets today and I'm really glad I could be here for this fantastic moment of undiluted douchebaggery. it brings a tear to my eye

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-23 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, just shut up, seriously. You're trying to be all properly PC, we get it, but fact of the matter is that you have no idea what the heck you're talking about. My cousin is autistic, and as much as I love her to bits, I wouldn't let her anywhere near a wand (if we had wands, that is). Clearly the only people with autism you hear about are the high "functioning" ones who an properly blend into society, make friends, hold jobs, etc.

Newsflash: that isn't the the majority. My cousin can't walk and can't speak. She wears a diaper and is wheelchair bound. She's a sweetheart, but she has awful temper tantrums and is often emotionally unstable. She's an amazing woman and I love her dearly, but facts are facts.

My sister used to work at a school for children with special needs, and I use to meet a lot of autistic children on "bring your child to work day" and such. There were a few of them capable of blending in, but many of them were like my cousin.

So please stop speaking about things you're ignorant of.

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi. I'm "low-functioning" autistic. I can't always communicate verbally (and doing so is really, really hard), can't live independently, and used to lash out violently at my caregivers. I sure as hell don't "properly blend into society".

Please stop speaking about things you're ignorant of.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
No. What you are is a liar.

The level at which you type and debate is NOT indicative of someone categorized as low functioning.

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-24 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
If someone who can't communicate verbally and can't perform basic self-care without assistance and prompting isn't "low-functioning", who exactly is?

I mean, I know that allistics assume that someone who isn't verbal couldn't possibly be capable of coherent thought. But that isn't actually true.

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