[ SECRET POST #2335 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2335 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 095 secrets from Secret Submission Post #334.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i43.tinypic.com/2r54zzm.png

[(Anonymous)]

Could be you're the one that's unimaginative, what with your lack of ability to imagine people thinking or acting in any way different than your own.

[kaijinscendre]

I think it was a metaphor...

[(Anonymous)]

Don't cut yourself on that edge, fanbrat.

[(Anonymous)]

I really don't think you should be calling people unimaginative when you are the one that cannot look past the given and realize it was all a metaphor for depression.

[cloud_riven]

[(Anonymous)]

You sound like a narrow-minded jackass. Not everyone has an experience identical to yours.

[dreemyweird]

No, the strangest part of this secret is that the OP did not understand what the panels in question were telling about.

They were not saying that she could not find a substitute for her toys. They were simply about the way she grew out of them. It was used to introduce the depression metaphor.

This is not even about the OP being unimaginative. This is about the OP being, um, illiterate? Not attentive enough? IDK.

I missed the point, too, by the way: by the end of the comic I was shivering, because everything in me wanted to scream: "oh, I don't want this to happen to me! Please don't let it happen to me! ESPECIALLY THIS LAST BIT ABOUT LAUGHING LIKE A MADMAN", which is... sort of the opposite of what the author meant. But reasonably I know that the message is different.

[dethtoll]

Shut up. You're dumb.

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

All I heard was WOOSH when I read this secret...

[wldcatsprstr_14]

The whole thing really went over your head, huh?

[(Anonymous)]

Asshole.

[oftheark]

Aside from the fact that yeah, you really missed the point on that one, I sort of agree in that I didn't feel anything for her, nor could I relate. And I say this as someone who suffers from depression and has for decades.

But I suspect it's because I don't remember what life was like before depression, so the onset of and beginning to breakthrough from depression are not in my (remembered) experience.

[(Anonymous)]

Um, yeah...I took it as an example of anhedonia. Which means losing interest in things you used to like and which is a symptom of depression.

[silverau]

...I can't even think of anything to say about this.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. I've no idea what this comic is or what happens in it. I just want to deal with the whole 'inability to visualise without aids = unimaginative' thing?

Visualisation is a skill. Not everyone automatically imagines visually. Some people do it verbally, for example. I had a friend who couldn't see the pictures in her head when she read a book (that was a fascinating conversation), but she could write the meanest debate speech you ever heard. She conceptualised the concepts verbally, not visually.

Even people who do visualise and do it well sometimes use aids to help keep track of things (writing a story involving a lot of body contact, it can be useful to remember where limbs are, and doing the basic 'the pepper pot is the baddie and the sugar bowl is the doomsday weapon, and this spoon is the hero' can help keep track of where people are in action scenes or whatever).

Just ... not everyone can create an entire visual scenario in their heads, and even those who can sometimes use aids to remember that real world and headspace don't always agree on the details. I don't see how this automatically makes them less imaginative.

[omens]

Uhhhh I knew immediately what she was talking about/how that time in my life felt, and I have ZERO problems with lack of creativity/imagination.

o_O

[shinyhappypanic]

fuck off, that's not even what she was saying at all.

she wasn't mourning the loss of her imagination. she was saying that she felt terrible that she no longer had any feelings for the objects she used to love.

[(Anonymous)]

I could sort of relate in that I lost interest in things that I loved...I really hate how so many blogs I visit are using this to completely ignore that there are cases when it's not caused by being 'stuck' emotionally.

ok, so let's talk about depression and those who don't get it

[tyger66]

Yeah, I'll agree with what everyone already said upthread. You completely missed the point of that, which was not to say that she couldn't "play" anymore, it's just that the way she had always played now seemed....false. Unreal. Uninteresting.

I've suffered from extremely severe depression for almost half of my lifetime (and wow, does that realization feel like a kick in the teeth. holy shit.) and that post made me cry sad sad tears because I have never seen a better description of the hell that is long-term depression. How many times did I tell my mother "I don't want to kill myself, I just want to stop being alive"? I can't even count.

The dead fish bit really got me, though. And I think that's pretty much what's happened here. She was trying to tell you about her dead fish and all you heard was that she needed help finding her totally-still-alive fish. And you got annoyed. "How can she not find her fish? She must be really stupid to lose some fish in a tiny tank like that." When really that is not what she's saying at all.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure you can't call anyone who came up with the fish analogy later in the piece devoid of imagination.

Just sayin'

[(Anonymous)]

everyone else pretty much said what I wanted to.

Your process is not her process, or my process, or anyone's. everyone is different. She was using it as a metaphor about her process in how she was starting to perceive her life. I can't say I'm a huge fan of hers, but she's brutally honest about her life. Just because you don't think she's doing depression right doesn't make her struggle less important. She's putting out there what it feels like to her. Not you. Her.

[(Anonymous)]

i don't rly agree with this secret, but i still haven't finished reading her latest comic because i found it uninteresting (unlike the last one, which i loved)

[(Anonymous)]

Dude I don't like her comics/entries at all* and even I could see the reasoning behind the beginning and the other entries prove she's quite imaginative.

"admit they left their imagination back in their childhood" wtf man, you do realise imagination is more than just the ability to make stories out of your toys? It's not a single facet here, imagination comes in many different styles and yes, typically some times of imagination are left behind in childhood.

Perhaps you're unimaginative when it comes to online comics and secrets because what????

*I just don't. Maybe 'cause her depression is way different to what mine was. Which is fine.