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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-25 04:12 pm

[ FS Anon Meme ]

F!S Anon Meme (the ??th)


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(Today's post is below.)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I usually don't like to name names because it feels too much like bullying, but I must agree that I don't find his "humor" amusing and am sad that F!S has become all about he and his lady. If you try and complain you get jumped on.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's a bit much, saying F!S is all about him and chard.

I don't always get their humour but I think they're alright people.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
i don't think being sexist makes someone an alright person.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
i guess it does if you are also sexist?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
sa

when were they sexist? I think I missed that.

noodly and chard are alright in general, i mean. then again, i've never taken everything they said seriously because, hello, they joke around a lot.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Well, being sexist doesn't make someone a bad person either. Most people are sexist, so sorry to say.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
lmfao wow

this comment is way too fucking stupid to be anything other than a joke

is what i wanna say, but sadly i have actually met people who sincerely believed that kind of bullshit that "most people" being sexist means sexism doesn't make someone a bad person

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Are you completely incapable of understanding that people are complex?

Having one bad quality doesn't mean every trait they have or even the majority of traits they have are bad; that just means they're flawed. Some people who hold sexist beliefs are nice. Some of them are even good people on other merits.

Shocker, I know.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
yeah ok sure it means they're flawed

but as a woman i don't want a goddamn thing to do with people who are "flawed" in that way, no matter how "nice" they are or how "good" they are on these nebulous other merits that have way less to do with the fact that they view my intrinsic worth as a human being as lesser because of what i am inherently

you don't tell pocs to put up with people's racist bullshit because these racists are nice people, or tell queer people to put up with homophobia or transphobia because hey man these homophobes and transphobes are good people on other merits, do you??

seriously you have got to be fucking shitting me rn

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I don't. I was simply disagreeing with your idea that people who are sexist are awful people, forever and always.

I don't put up with sexism or racism myself in real life, but I also know that sometimes people just say stupid shit that falls under some -ism category. It isn't the end of the world, it isn't uncommon, and being as angry as you seem to be would be exhausting on a constant basis. My lines for what is intolerable behavior are clearly different from yours.

It's your business who you want to associate with. I personally am capable of talking with and even enjoying the company of people who hold opinions different from mine.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
if someone is consistently *ist and doesn't make any effort (however small) to apologize or improve on that front when you gently point their *ist shit out to them, or even worse gets nasty and defensive of their *ism, they pretty much ARE awful people forever and always until they do make the effort to make that change

it isn't "the end of the world" but it's still shit i don't want to deal with so no i won't associate with people who spout it consistently

"well it's hardly uncommon so it's okay" is still a shit reason for tolerating it and toleration only comes across a complacent acceptance of those beliefs and makes it more likely that the people who spew them will do so around you

yeah i'm angry, i'm angry because i deal with this shit on a daily basis and usually ~tolerate~ it or react in a kinder way meant to be gently educational because people get hurt and defensive around angry minorities and call us irrational like we don't have any right to be upset about their casual *isms, but you, anon, are the straw that broke the camel's fucking back this week

i too am capable of talking to and enjoying the company of people with different opinions than mine, wow! life sure would be boring if we were all the same wouldn't it

but "opinions" that devalue other people based on who they are inherently are bullshit and should not be tolerated, plain and fucking simple