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fandomsecrets2013-05-25 04:12 pm
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)1. It's not about believing that you're being persecuted in earnest by the offensive-joke-making wanker. It's the annoyance of having to hear the offensive bullshit at all in yet another space. And coming from some tool who doesn't care that he's making other people's day a bit shittier as long as he gets to be the center of attention.
2. Lazy humour is never an equal-opportunities offender. It might have multiple targets, but guaranteed every one of those targets is defined by a long history of being the butt of other people's jokes. Cause when your schtick is to be offensive, but you're relying on stereotypes to do it then you're already de facto limited by your material to being a shithead about people who've had the short end of the stick for a considerable amount of time.
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)Also, to your second point:
Lazy humour is never an equal-opportunities offender
1. that's a massive generalization, and therefor probably untrue.
2. Says who? It is my experience (Given that humor is subjective) that people are inherently geared to see jokes targeting themselves as offensive while all other jokes get a pass, and they're much more likley to consider a joke in terms of 'How does it relate to me' rather than, 'Who is the joke aimed at'.
Case in point, the mastectomy joke Noodly made the other day. Now someone suggested that the joke was not mean to be 'Angelina Jolie is having her boobs removed isn't that hilarious' and more 'How pathetic are the people who consider her choice to have a mastectomy some kind of national tragedy' but most people immediately assumed that women were the victims of a sexist joke. Maybe they were, maybe not, but only 1 person considered an alternative interpretation of the joke.
So when you say "Lazy humour is never an equal-opportunities offender" are you sure you're not being lazy in your viewing of the joke? Are you SURE that maybe there are offensive jokes that target people you dont even consider?
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)I suspect you typed up your response without engagin your brain.
Or maybe you did. Maybe you engaged your brain just enough to come up with an easy strawman version of my point, then engaged your brain just a little bit further so you could set that point aflame.
You did just enough thinking so you wouldn't have to think seriously that you might have a set way of viewing the world, and that sometimes that way of viewing the world may be wrong, or not a complete view.
You did the bare minimum of an argument because you don't WANT to argue. You don't want discourse, you're not willing to face a veiw point that is not your own. You want to be seen to be smart enough to have a debate, but in a way that means you will always be right in your own eyes, and will never have to face the alternative.
Or again, maybe you just didn't sit down and think about my point before you posted.
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)I'm the anon who made the two numbered points above about why being a shithead to lots of people neither ameliorates the public nuisance of lazy humour, nor does it in any way level the playing field.
I am not, however, the anon to whom you are currently replying. You're right in one sense - I chose not to continue the conversation. (Though I did it by not responding at all, because I didn't follow your argument and then had to go do a thing.) Unfortunately by jumping into the thread and then back out of it, I've made multiple anons look like they're all me. They're not.