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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-15 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2356 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-06-15 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This is slightly off-topic, but as far as Sora/Kairi being endgame, I'm convinced that Kairi ships Sora/Riku as much as the fans do.

(And I personally root for the OT3 option, but I tend to do that any time the rivals for one person's affection have even remote chemistry together.)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-15 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Since when has anything in the game even remotely pointed to that conclusion? Seems more like a fandom thing and their inputting their perspective on Kairi's character.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
I think fanon!kairi would make for an intereseting OT3 option, but I've always got the impression Kairi never really liked Riku much.

I mean, barely a half hour into the game and she wants to take off into their ocean adventure alone with Sora and leave Riku behind, and I think she's pretty conscious of the high probability of never seeing him again that would entail.

There's probably some bullshit context there involving the fact that she's a pure hearted princess, but realistically? That's cold, Kairi. Ice cold.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Context: Riku is only a couple days away from unveiling that he's become a massive Darkness Dick. Kairi has gotten the vibe that he's different and it's not enough to put her off completely but yeah, she's no longer eager to be on a wild adventure depending on him. Considering how big a Darkness Dick Riku is in the first game, I think this is a pretty smart caution for anyone to have.

Also if the ocean adventure really was a "high probability of never seeing Riku again", all three of them are ice cold for doing this to their families and their other friends. But they're kids and I doubt they really think it's forever and ever.

At the end of KH2, Kairi is the one who helps Sora see that it's Riku in front of him. I'm curious if they'll ever explore if there'd been awkwardness concerning her having backed off from him, but I'm pretty sure she does like him.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's a smart caution, but in the overall context of things, it also felt like a convenient one as far as the storytelling goes. Since even if Kairi can sense something about Riku, it still feels off that she'd outright suggest to abandon him like that--Which is mostly why I interpret it the way I do, since it makes more internal sense to me than Square justifying something like that as a reasonable and completely decent suggestion probably because princess.

I suppose it doesn't help that I'm tired of Square's formula for mmf love triangles setting up the other male in the equation as an antagonist. It just especially falls flat in my eyes when it's injected into a trio of childhood friends the way it was here.

But they're kids and I doubt they really think it's forever and ever.

Actually, the fact that they're kids is what makes me think it's especially dickish. You're right, there's the prospect of return: it's not leaving forever, it's striking out on their own to explore the world! Excitement, adventure! Coming of age themes! Hooray for personal growth and individuation, etc!

Which is why I think that cutting a friend and comrade out of that and leaving them behind tends to carry far different implications and weight than separating from family.

The KH2 thing is a good point, and I guess rather than not liking him, it felt to me like their bond just wasn't all that strong. In-game it feels like they could probably do without each other if Sora wasn't there connecting them.

That's an interesting thought too about Kairi's reaction to Riku, but I have a feeling the moment is probably just done and gone. Although if they do develop Riku's relationship friendship with Kairi in KH3, I do hope they address something to that effect. The whole kidnapping and siding with evil thing does have to put some strain on a relationship.

Also I feel I should say that I don't hate Kairi or anything, so I apologize if it came off as just trying to poke at her character. This isn't meant to be malicious.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You just flip-flopped logic in the middle there. It's not malicious, it's flimsy.
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[personal profile] autumnal 2013-06-16 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
not really sold on the first half of your comment BUT

i'm totally rooting for the ot3 option (friendly or romantic) as well because well, that image of sora lying on the sand, holding both their hands, is one that i find really powerful and it is NEVER GOING TO LEAVE ME :')
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[personal profile] raaj 2013-06-16 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
...What image is that? I've either missed or forgotten it.
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[personal profile] autumnal 2013-06-16 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
ignore the text someone added above but it's this one here from 3:54 - 3:58 of the KH2 opening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhWB5hE_imU)

(makes it hard for me to accept that he would pick one over the other but wishful thinking is wishful)