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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-16 03:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2357 ]


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[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2013-06-16 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I know very little about Harry Potter, so maybe those names are typical of the canon, but all of those are hilariously ludicrous. I mean, "Pharaoh Johnsbutter"?!

Also, does this mean that AO3 actually creates canonical tags for OCs? I'm trying to learn how the tagging system there works, so this really surprises me.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
OP

They do, if it passes the Rule of Three (three different people use the tag in three different works to describe the same person). So if three people use the name "Laura Smith" to describe Harry Potter's grandmother, let's say, then it would become canonized.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The website doesn't create tags, the creators of the works do. So someone could tag something "kdwouiose" and it would be a tag.

But that doesn't do anything for anyone and just hurts the tag wranglers.

Why people feel the need to tag their OCs with their actual name instead of an 'OC' tag is a mystery to me.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Pharaoh Johnsbutter is actually an amazing name and I really want to see more fanworks featuring it, because holy crap that's just the best
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-06-16 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Hariel "Harry" Amateratsu.

Good Lord.

(Then again, some of the others sound like they could actually appear in canon. I'd argue that Renaud Montague sounds less silly than Gilderoy Lockhart.)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-17 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
this has to be a parody:

What if "Harry" was Hariel the son of Urlilliel "Lily" Potter the Princess of Angels.
Who was herself the "daughter" of Seraph-Archangel Uriel, Angel of Presence and Justice.

Uriel who would become Neo in the Matrix years later, who came back for his 'Grandson'. To teach Hariel.

What if Uriel rescued Hariel from the Dursleys' doorstep with his Soul Mate?
What if Hariel had to learn his Angelic abilites along with Wizard Magic?


I refuse to believe this is a legit story.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-06-16 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
What is a tag wrangler?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone who organizes tags on AO3.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god yeah. The Mary Sues and Self Inserts in Potterdom are just appalling. JK Rowling has a lot to answer for by writing a story structured so that it allows for such a massive number of them.

On the other hand, you can never have too much genderbending. Providing it is real genderbending and not just writing an OC and saying it is was the "born a guy version of a female character or vice versa". Turned-into-a-Girl!Draco is my fave Potter character. Recs solicited.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure if this counts, but Rebound (http://archiveofourown.org/works/225207/chapters/340923) by GatewayGirl is pretty good, imho. Draco isn't a girl, but he drinks a potion to turn into one.

There's also Territorial (http://archiveofourown.org/works/12479) by Greenie, which is a really hot PWP, with Sirius and Snape both girls.

I can't think of any good long ones featuring genderswapped characters, though.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Woah there smartass. Are authors now held accountable because they didn't squeeze out every possibility to make OCs fit in their world?

Of all the ridiculous complaints in fandom I swear

DA

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"Hippocrates Smethwyck" actually sounds like an excellent wizarding world name. Some of the others aren't bad, either.

...some of them are.

In a vacuum, "Sebastian Mycroft" would be passable. Sadly, no.
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[personal profile] seashadows 2013-06-16 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Hippocrates Smethwyck is canon, actually. He's the head Healer who took care of Arthur Weasley post-snake attack in OotP.
Edited 2013-06-16 21:41 (UTC)

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[personal profile] eaten_by_bears 2013-06-16 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Hippocrates Smethwyck is a minor canon character, actually.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there a Harry Potter Wizard Name Generator out there that I can use to get awesome names like this? Because these are gold.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-06-16 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, OP I feel for you. Tag wrangling for Harry Potter must be insane.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, it is. There are over 3,000 unwrangled tags, and even though there are eight of us (I think that's the most of any fandom), we still can't keep up. Thanks for the encouragement, though! :)

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[personal profile] lex_antonia 2013-06-16 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if Hariel "Harry" Amateratsu is friends with Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way?
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[personal profile] comradesmiler 2013-06-16 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Starting?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually like 'Matthias Hale'. I'm half-tempted to call a character that now.

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-06-16 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is the fragment of a list of Original Character names from the Harry Potter fandom:

Aralynn Potter
Armand Delacour
Lionel Lovegood
Ida Nott
Hilzarie Solestra
Olivier Dubois
Hariel "Harry" Amateratsu (Potter)
Aphrodite Black
Reginald Crouch
Cecily Macmillan
Wilda Griffiths
Strai Riddle
Soleil McFarland Lovegood
Omar Streete
Hippocrates Smethwyck
Selene Lovegood
Dahlia Parkinson
Noah Creevey-Katz
Arcadia Longbottom
(Rosemary Ann Potter)
Melody Bramble
Renaud Montague
Rochester Grayheart
Cassandra Dorea Potter-Black
Livius Prince
Kisalia Maglione
Matthias Hale
Vulchanov
Sebatian Mycroft
Lin Wood
Trinity Tulo
Astrid McDougal
Sirius Harrison Weasley
Gayle Robins
Pharaoh Johnsbutter
Callidora Lestrange
Scarlett Lympsham
Morgana Potter/Evans
Nicole Scarlett
Damien Bournewithe
Chase Carter]

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I AM A HARRY POTTER TAG WRANGLER, AND THE MARY SUES AND THE WILDLY OOC GENDER-FLIPPING IN THIS FANDOM IS REALLY STARTING TO ANNOY ME.

[Transcription notes:

Tag Wrangler is a person who "cleans up" the tags used in the fanfiction archive "Archive of Our Own". Theirs is a thankless and nigh-impossible job, as they can't even admonish or advice the fanfiction authors on how to tag properly.

OOC: Out of character

Mary Sue: A character who takes over the narrative at the cost of proper writing and characterization, just for the sake of the author making them more special and important. Usually badly written and/or a self insert.]

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[personal profile] al28894 2013-06-17 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
...That is lot of genderbent characters. O_O
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[personal profile] gamma_orionis 2013-06-17 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I feel for you, OP, I feel for you!

I'm totally weirded out by the presence of two names (other than Hippocrates Smethwyk, which it's already been pointed out is a minor canon character) on the list - one is Callidora Lestrange and the other is Cassandra Dorea Potter-Black.

It's weird because Callidora Black and Dorea Potter-Black are both canon names (although it's more likely that Dorea would take on her husband's last name (Potter) rather than do the double-barrel last name thing) so I'm wondering how someone could be familiar enough with the extended Black family to get those names, and yet make those mistakes (or, alternatively, why someone so familiar with the extended Black family would choose those names for unrelated characters)

*Cough* Not that I'm overly familiar with the names of minor characters... *shifty eyes*

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