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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-28 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2369 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2369 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Hannibal]


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02.
[Mother India, Sholay]


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03.
[Mad Men]


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04.
[Hannibal, Red Dragon]


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05.
[Regular Show]


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06.
[tomofromearth]


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07.
[Charles Dance and Emilia Fox in "Rebecca"]


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08.
[Mandy Patinkin]


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09.
[Mad Men]

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10.
[The Creeps]


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11.
[Star Trek]


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12. [SPOILERS for the last of us]



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13. [SPOILERS for Bioshock Infinite]



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14. [WARNING for incest]



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15. [WARNING for rape]



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16. >[WARNING for rape]
http://i.imgur.com/eJbMOhY.png
[linked for actual movie scene maybe?]


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17. [WARNING for non-con]



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18. [WARNING for rape]



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19. [WARNING for incest, underage]



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20. [WARNING for suicide]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #337.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems evident that most people do though, since that's what most of the fics are (at least seemingly for K/S), but I'm not sure if who bottoms or tops ever counts as "fanon"? I haven't seen this becoming a point of controversy (just like almost every other supposed ST wank bomb mentioned in this comm, despite me being pretty active in the fandom, which I find to be quite mysterious indeed) but people will respond strongly to it when it's worded in a way that reflects gay stereotypes and really obnoxious yaoi-ish simplifications of gay sex.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I've never seen this either, but I thought this might explain it too. Even for characters who I vastly prefer bottoming, a lot of the time the most vocal fans of my preference are also into things I hate like yaoi-ish tropes or omegaverse or degrading language. YKIMK and all that, but I can see how it's more likely to cause wank than other kinks.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-06-28 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I understand back when I was in that fandom years ago, people hated it because, at least where I hung around, it became a popular thing that was actually shorthand for a creepily possessive big seme Spock and weeping uke Kirk. (This, of course, was just when you mentioned it as a selling point in your fic. If Spock happened to top without the other stuff or you mentioning it as a selling point no one would care.)

I'm guessing it's different now and most of those fics have washed away into obscurity. Sucks that people still have a knee-jerk reaction to it though.

Or maybe that is completely unrelated and you've just run into some real jerks. Either way, I hope things get better for you.
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[personal profile] ooh_mrdarcy 2013-06-28 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, he's NOT a bottom?

MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE
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[personal profile] elaminator 2013-06-28 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
God. Thank you for using that image OP. I'm going to post the gif just because.



Hnng.

What was the secret about again?

...

Right.

Well, it's just a personal preference. Everyone has preferences when it comes to porn so I don't see the big deal. I've noticed people saying they prefer both bottom!Kirk and bottom!Spock and never seen any sort of drama spring from it. (How do I always miss out on the wank? IDGI.)
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[personal profile] skeletal_history 2013-06-29 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I'm not in the fandom, but thank you for that gif, seriously. Lawd.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2013-06-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, you are most welcome! (I only wish it were longer. Could've sworn I had a longer gif of that scene...)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Um, yes please. That gif is hot.

Also, there needs to be bottom!Kirk in het pairings. Because.

Why is it that I always want the characters I find hottest to bottom? Isn't it usually the other way around?
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-06-29 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Really? I wouldn't think it was that weird to want to see your favorite characters on the receiving end of pleasure rather than the giving one. Although I definitely like my favorites best at their most vulnerable, so I might be biased.

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[personal profile] autumnal 2013-06-29 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
yep

four years later and that is still the most beautifully obscene thing i have seen on film to date

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-28 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that pic is hot as fuck. It took me awhile to get around to reading the secret because of it.
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[personal profile] got_swagger 2013-06-29 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Kirk has always been a bottom in my head, even in Mirror!Verse. It doesn't matter if I'm shipping Kirk/McCoy or Kirk/Uhura.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Unf Kirk bottoming for Uhura= hot beautiful win

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-06-29 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
[Picture is James Kirk from the new Star Trek films with his eyes closed and his mouth opened. It seems that someone is pressing down against his chest to hold him down against some surface, but it's hard to tell from the picture.]

I don't understand why even mentioning liking bottom-Kirk can get people a bunch of hate in this fandom. Are you afraid it will become fanon? Is it because it's become a meme?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
The picture is immediately post-strangle from an emotionally-compromised Spock, if it helps. :)

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Almost all Kirk porn is bottom!Kirk though?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, where are you finding the anti-bottom attitude? Unless you're going on bottom!other rec lists for Kirk/other pairings and whining about the lack of bottom!Kirk, there's no backlash at all.

Re: Almost all Kirk porn is bottom!Kirk though?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen quite a bit of wank on tumblr

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silverr: abstract art of pink and purple swirls on a black background (ohshit)

Ironic, since the ORIGINAL K/S story ...

[personal profile] silverr 2013-06-29 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
... "Shelter" by Leslie Fish, was (iirc) dubcon bottom Kirk.

(And ... I kinda think that the follow-up story, "Poses," was all about McCoy finding out that Kirk and Spock were lovers. (Wonderfully creative Vulcan anatomy there in that one.)
Edited 2013-06-29 01:42 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Good god, he looks like he's 12 years old.

[personal profile] starry_starrrz 2013-06-29 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still pretty much stuck in Shatner4eva mode when it comes to Kirk, but I would legit read more movie trek stuff just for bottom!Kirk.

Though, then again, Kirk initiating virgin!Spock never loses its charm... What were we talking about again? xD

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Bottom!Kirk is awesome, I blame his booty, his hot and sexy booty.
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[personal profile] dragonimp 2013-06-29 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
I ... don't understand why people get so hung up on who tops and who bottoms anyway.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It gets hate because it's so overwhelmingly popular that the people who don't like it feel attacked when they're confronted with it all the time.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-29 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you even equate something being 'overwhelmingly popular' with feeling attacked? If it weren't for those in opposition acting like there's a problem, there wouldn't be any wank in the first place.