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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-08 06:51 pm

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Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
When did it become a thing to have relationship drama as a staple in like every (western) show ever?

Every once in a while is fine and understandable, but it just feels like writers aren't even trying to find actual situational drama to write about - they just rely on couples being terribly matched and non-communicative. Why is this a thing? Why can't we have a show with people in relatively functional relationships (both romantic and platonic!) working together to overcome the outside problem?

...Or am I just weird for thinking happy couples can still make good stories?

Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
cheap drama draws in more people than cheap happiness

so you don't have to be as good at causing strife in the plots to keep at least some viewers, but you have to be a hell of a writer (and have kickass actors with great chemistry and great direction, production, etc.) to make happy relationships engaging
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Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
OP

I'm not against relationships? I'm baffled as to why so many of them are so messed up. If most people are in poorly functioning relationships, shouldn't they instead be encouraged to end said relationships without guilt or judgment rather than having it reinforced that that's the only type of relationship out there?

I know the internet hates happy couples, but my god, why is it a media cornerstone to perpetuate harmful ideas about these things?
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Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
But why does relationship drama have to be the major or only conflict of the show?

Yes, how boring TV would be if people had realistic reactions to things. OH WAIT, ATTACK ON TITAN IS POPULAR.

Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
But who the heck identifies with over dramatic relationships like you see on tv now? The will they won't they and break up each week and epic drama over the littlest thing? Most people I know in relationships do not have that drama. Outside of high school, that is.
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Re: Relationship Drama

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-07-09 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's less that people identify with horrible relationships and more that they get a thrill out of seeing fucked-up things that don't reflect on themselves, like rubbernecking at a stranger's car wreck. The ones who've actually been in such a car wreck - or bad relationship - are the ones who want to see detailed reminders the least, IME.

Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I'm in a relationship and I like to see things on TV that I can identify with. Except I've emotionally matured past middle school and appreciate the value of communication in a healthy relationship, so cheap relationship drama tends not to do it for me.
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Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
It sells, but not for the reason you're saying. Or at least I (and apparently the other anons) disagree with you.

Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I would love a show with functional couples, I kinda try to learn from TV to fill what I've yet to experience like dating and I'm terrified because of the common themes in the relationships (like having to lie about headaches to get out of sex, expectations on dates, what to say etc etc)

Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
d-don't learn from TV, anon. TV is a horrible teacher. I think the only functional couples I can recall off the top of my head are Lily and Marshall from How I Met Your Mother, and Peter and Elizabeth from White Collar. You can learn from them, but from personal experience, I gotta say, the best relationship is one where you can both be yourselves. IMO, if you're not able to do that, the relationship isn't worth it.
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Re: Relationship Drama

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-07-09 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
If you're weird, then I'm weird, too, as the most interesting relationships to me (romantic and otherwise) are the ones where people find ways to make it work. I want to see parents who care about and get along with their children, lovers who make a point to trust and talk to and respect each other, friends who support and laugh with one another, and challenges to those relationships that aren't shallow and pointless. Not perfect relationships, those are boring, but imperfect yet functional relationships where people are always working at it, and a lot of the time, actually getting it right. I love that shit, eat it up with a spoon.

I won't say I've never enjoyed a hopelessly dysfunctional relationship, but they always get frustrating eventually. Happy couples never do, for me.

Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
DA This is me as well. And I think it's why I'm rarely ever invested in television and movie romances. People always think I'm weird because I don't ship the most popular ships but I'm sorry I don't really like dysfunctional relationships? Like if something couldn't work in reality then I don't want to see it working in fiction either.

The drama can definitely be fun, but my big pet peeve is that most of these stories end up with the couple being each other's "true love" and they get together at the end. That frustrates me to no end. I have a lot more respect for writers when they break up the couple permanently.
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Re: Relationship Drama

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-07-09 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
The drama can definitely be fun, but my big pet peeve is that most of these stories end up with the couple being each other's "true love" and they get together at the end. That frustrates me to no end.

This is exactly the problem for me, too! It's so inconsistent, you can't have your cake and eat it, too, making these people horrible for each other just to milk the drama for easy story lines, and then turn around and say they were meant to be all along. Nope, nope, a world of nope. Let the dysfunction meet its inevitable conclusion.

Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
OP

This. All of this. I wouldn't like a perfectly spotless couple, either, I just want couples that like each other and get along! Real relationships aren't without problems, but yeah, I wanna see them team up and work through it together! Couples where they're constantly lying and fighting just make me wonder when one of them is going to get a clue and leave *coughPondscough*
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Re: Relationship Drama

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-07-09 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, seriously, if I spend most of the relationship wondering why they even bother to put up with each other, something has gone wrong.

Re: Relationship Drama

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
Cracked.com actually talked about this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMsp9O0E_jE