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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-08 06:51 pm

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Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, did she do something new or is this just you now discovering her negatives? Can't just come in here without links and details!

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Woops, sorry!
She's defending Paula Deen calling people niggers and compared Paula Deen's dismasal to a lynch mob :C

http://jezebel.com/paula-deen-is-the-victim-of-a-lynch-mob-says-anne-ri-566468269

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, though I don't approve of what Paula Deen actually said, I really don't disagree about the lynch mob culture. We seem to have lost all ability in this country to keep our responses proportional to the severity of the offense. (I'm not only speaking of this particular subject; it happens all the time with any kind of incident that could potentially be offensive to anyone, ever.)

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's exploded because, if I'm not mistaken, Paula was a rather large celebrity (?) and people are rather upset on both sides. It makes sense to me that she got fired (i'd certainly get a final warning on calling people niggers at my job, and I'm a nobody) and a celebrity being fired always seems to come with controversy :/

I think calling it a mob would have been fine, calling it a lynch mob in a topic on racism when all that is happening is angry discussions on the internet seems a very bad word choice to me :/ She couldnt' call it a hunt or condemnation or overreaction? :C

That and her arguments that people are secretly hating on her for being white/female/fat/southern (while I'm sure some are) seems incorrect compared to the surprise!racism

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was pretty insulting that the suit was brought up by a white woman. Yep, Jackson is WHITE. It smacks of "Oh hey racism, check please?"

SA

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
*That, and I doubt Paula Deen's life has been destroyed. Consequences for being racist in a work place and under the spot light of being a cooking celebrity.

I'm not too sympathetic because here, in Aus, we've had quite a few people going on racist rants outside of work - the majority have been charged, lost their job or both as a result. So Paula Deen's consequences seem quite minor to me (she gets to finish her contract?) - just big because so many people know who she is

(I don't, not until Anne Rice brought it up on her facebook)
thene: Naomi Hunter is very suspicious. (naomi)

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

[personal profile] thene 2013-07-09 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
I lived in Atlanta for four years and I can totally get how southern culture managed to produce Paula Deen and insulate her so thoroughly from the consequences of her racism, but that just makes me all the more happy to see someone shine a torch through the shit cobwebs of the shit dungeon that is white southern racism.

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but should a white woman really be the one to do this?

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Do we really care about the ethnicity of the person who called her out? At least somebody did. It's not like white people somehow don't understand racism just because they're white :|a

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
thread OP

...why would that matter? She told someone something horribly racist while bein an influential figure, that person informed people that she hold's these views, Paula dug herself a bigger hole and her employment was terminated.

It doesn't matter what colour the person she told her views too her released them, what important is she holds these horrible views, continued to hold them and is only apologetic because she lost her job :/
thene: Fang, with her back turned.  Fate is not kind to those who leap. (oerba yun fang)

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

[personal profile] thene 2013-07-09 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
Would you prefer it if no one did it? (This is a lot of how it works, anyway - it's the shit they say when there's only whites in the room and they feel 'safe' in the white supremacy bubble. So there's going to be irl social situations where only whites are positioned to call out other whites.)

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Oh jeez. That phrasing has got to be on purpose, right? I mean you wouldn't enter a discussion on racism defending a racist and not know the history of a term like lynch mob. That has got to be on purpose. And another example of her crazy out of touch.

As for Paula Deen - I wonder if people actually read about the topic because all I see is people defending Deen's right to use the word nigger but from what I've read it's much more than that. It's entire racist business practices, not just casual linguistic racism.
thene: PROTIP do not fuck with Minette (minette)

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

[personal profile] thene 2013-07-09 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
what no anne rice has no idea what words mean or how to choose them

she's only a writer, for hell's sakes.

Re: No Anne Rice stop it

(Anonymous) 2013-07-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
and she's a southerner, which gives her even less of an excuse