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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-11 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2382 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2382 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Big Brother]


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[Dragon Age: Origins]


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[The visitor from the future/Le visiteur du futur]


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[Young Avengers]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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[Robin Hood]


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(Anonymous) 2013-07-11 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It is pretty bad to say that their entire dynamic is based on gender. Also saying it's messed up without ever watching to see. Maybe not the worst type of person, but definitely not the good kind.
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[personal profile] dragonimp 2013-07-12 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
It's also naive to say that gender would have no influence their dynamic.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-12 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but also no.

Given the vast changes made between each adaptation, any influence their genders have on their dynamic is going to be indistinguishable from whatever differences would have existed due to changes in adaptation alone.

For instance, in Elementary Watson is Sherlock's sober companion, not just his roommate. This is a different power dynamic right off the bat. Joan cannot just follow Sherlock's lead the what Watson does is *some* other adaptations.

And frankly, I've watched the whole first season and really, I don't think the dynamic is affected all that much. Obviously, there are some new areas opened up, but overall their genders aren't a big deal.
Which is what I love!
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[personal profile] dragonimp 2013-07-12 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Which is a very valid point, but one could argue that their dynamic always has the same core, and gender can say that. I haven't watched Elementary and am not any kind of expert on ACD canon so I'm not going to argue any further, but I do see where the OP is coming from and don't think they're any kind of bad person for it.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one who thinks the main differences with Elementary's Watson is more to do with the fact they changed the character from an ex-army doctor to a sober companion rather than that it was changed from male to female?

I'm only a casual viewer of the show but Watson being female seems to be called out very rarely and doesn't seem to impact the episodes much at all. I could easily see a male in the same role and the dynamic being exactly the same.

People are just more fond of it now because; "Yay! Strong female character!" and "Yay! M/F platonic companionship for once!" Which is, to be fair, something to root for in today's media, ngl.

But I just don't think changing the gender has affected anything, no more than the writers of Alien just going; "Hey we have this character all written out - now let's just make him a girl" "Okay." And again, nothing much was changed (except maybe the scene of Ripley in her panties...Can't see that planned for Male!Ripley.