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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-13 03:49 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, anon. :(

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This is generally why I exercise on my own to dvds. Anything where other people are staring at me is really anxiety inducing.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That's because it doesn't matter what people in fandom say, but how you feel about yourself and in the end, only you can feel better about yourself.
People can preach all they want and their words can have some influence, but their acceptance speeches can't do anything if you don't believe them or you just want to change.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It'd also be nice if people outside of fandom were nicer to people on a whole, like I can love myself as much as I want it doesn't stop people from staring or making rude comments when I'm minding my own business.

Like seriously fat people cannot win. We're not confident enough but when we are confident we're somehow "spreading the dangerous obese lifestyle." We don't exercise enough but when we bother to go out and run we're made fun of on the street.

Like, self confidence is great but even the most confident people I know are not completely immune to that kind of treatment.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't be afraid. In the yoga class I go to, there are always both skinnier and heavier people present. Trust me, nobody is going to look at you, because we all are trying to concentrate on our own pose and not fall down.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Trust me, nobody is going to look at you, because we all are trying to concentrate on our own pose and not fall down.

I like this comment.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
this exactly! i'm too busy holding a pose and breathing to pay attention to anything else, and so every other person in class.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I got up the courage once and it was a nightmare. I was in a beginner's class so it could have been worse but my size and inflexibility made it literally impossible for me to do most of what the class was doing. I'm very rarely self conscious about my size but there was no way not to be that day.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-07-13 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
See if there's any yoga classes in your area geared towards fat people. They do exist, and apart from being less emotionally intimidating, are meant for people whose girth and body mass often means they need the poses a bit altered.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
And this has what to do with fandom, again?

I went to a yoga class and I'm overweight. I wasn't the only one, and no one made fun of me. You don't have to take off any clothes, and most people are too busy trying to do the stuff themselves to pay attention to you.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Friend, as a fellow f!s-er and yoga frequenter, I should tell you that you simply should not be afraid to go to yoga for any reason. I've been at it for about 3 years and I am TERRIBLE (lawlz) but the way it makes me feel is amazing. Yoga is very personal and believe me, everyone is going to be so focused on what they're doing and feeling that they won't focus on you.

For the record? I'm one of the only thin people in my class.
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[personal profile] silverau 2013-07-13 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
If you have space for it in your home, maybe you can get some DVD's of it? Or WiiFit, if that's more your thing. Of course, it would be great if you felt comfortable going to the class, but if you don't you don't, and DVD's would be a good start and might even help you be more comfortable with it so you feel better going to to the class later?

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You just have to find the right kind of yoga class. The first yoga class I tried was the kind of thing made for super skinny women who wanted to get even skinnier and the teacher constantly talked about how you should do this or that for maximum weight loss, and although I'm average weight and neither particularly fat nor particularly skinny, I felt incredibly uncomfortable there. Then I switched classes to a yoga class that was far more focused on health, on improving your flexibility and your personal well-being without any weight loss stuff. The participants there were not all skinny and athletic, but average weight and some of them were even fat and they still seemed to enjoy themselves.

TLDR: Just try out a few classes and find one that's good for you. I guess it would be a good sign that a class might be for you if there are other fat participants who seem to be happy with the teacher. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
hi anon

i haven't read the rest of the replies yet, but i do yoga. i also lift weights. and i go to classes and the gym. in both places, there are all ages and all body types, as well as all levels of experience. i've been in classes with 300-pound people. we are all there to either lift weights or to learn yoga, and we're busy concentrating on our breathing, holding our poses, correct form, the number of sets we've done, or a meditative mantra. nobody is paying any mind to anything else, really.

i understand where you're coming from, tho. i know i don't have to tell you how fat people are judged and shamed, and they're damned if they do go to the gym (ugh fat ppl at the gym how dare they!), and they're damned if they don't (ugh why don't fat ppl go to the gym already!). i'm sorry that happens, but please let me assure you how very, very rare it actually is in a real gym or class setting where people are concentrating on improving themselves (and when i say 'improving themselves' i'm not talking about weight loss, i'm talking about making yourself healthier, stronger, and mentally healthier [the reason i got into yoga and weight training was b/c i suffered from depression, and it has helped me immensely]).

in short, sorry this is so wordy but please do go to a yoga class. if you're anxious about it, i know of literally no teacher who would be bothered if you let them know about that in advance. yoga is a healing thing, and it can work for you too. the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, as they say, and for you that step is showing up to class. go for it!

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there any way you could sit in on the class or generally check it out without actually participating? That might be a good way to find out the style of the class and the body types of the people there.

Do you already do yoga? If you don't, you could try picking up the basics using YouTube videos. I do pilates that way - pick up a few basic moves and do it daily. If you want the relaxation benefits, doing a few bad moves for 10 minutes is better than not doing anything at all.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Do it OP! Me & my girlfriend do yoga and we're kinda fat. And not alone *at all* there.

If you are unfortunate enough to encounter the "weight loss" kind, drop it like hotcakes. Most yoga isn't like that. Also, some positions are different if your shape is different from the "starved on a holy mountain" body type, so don't worry if you have to do them a bit differently - you're not "weak" and you're actually stronger than the skinny people for holding your body in similar weird pretzel shapes :-)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'm an overweight yogi - not a good one, but I really enjoy it and have learned a good portion of poses - and I have never, EVER, felt uncomfortable about my size in a class taught at a yoga studio. Don't bother with the shitty gym versions. I can almost guarantee that the majority of those will be filled with super-fit gym bunnies that will make you feel like crap whether or not they are rude.

Google local yoga studios - most will have some sort of drop-in class for under $20. Go for a Hatha class if your strength and flexibility aren't so great, since Hatha tends to be very focused on restorative energy and getting you focused on your reasons for being there. Talk to the instructor about any health problems you might have, and DO NOT BE AFRAID to modify poses to be easier when you start out. Yoga is meant to be for YOUR health and mental well-being, not a competition.

Word to the wise - you will probably want to push yourself harder when you first start and see the people in your class doing more than you. Let it pass, it'll taper off after a couple of classes. Focus on listening to the instructor and feeling your breath. I have gotten AMAZING strength and muscle health when I've done yoga regularly and consistently - it'll stretch all of the muscles that are too tight from stress and lack of use in your body.

TL;DR: Find a yoga studio, talk to the instructor, and start with a Hatha class (where the majority of attendees will be older folks or people with weight problems/physical limitations). Nobody will be staring at you or judging!

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I am afraid to go to a yoga class because I am fat. No matter how often fandom tells me to accept my body I am still afraid.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.facebook.com/notes/erin-narumi-prince/yoga-from-the-eyes-of-the-overweight/126931534076

Read this, OP.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
If you can, try and find a class with a lot of middle age and up people in it - that's what I did and it was the most comfortable class ever.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I am fat. I go to yoga and I go to pilates.

Literally no one there gives a shit. In fact, Ive met some of the nicest people through yoga. It's relaxing and it either helps make or just attracts happy people. I don't know why, that's just been my experience.

No one cares that you're fat. And if you're worried you'll look silly, don't. People are fucking /farting/ in there anon. Everyone is downward dogging it up. No one looks not-silly.

You'll be fine, it's fun, you'll be a stretchy goddamned rockstar.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the fattest person in my yoga classes. My balance is shit and my form is only slowly improving after seven months.

Maybe someone gives a fuck. I sure don't, and my teachers don't encourage an image-focused atmosphere. Honestly, I feel more out of place for not being able to afford fancy yoga clothes and turning up in my regular work-out gear than I do for being obese.
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Well what do you expect?

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-07-14 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone in fandom goes on and on about embracing all body types (sometimes, though thankfully rarely, to the point of sheer ridiculousness) and fat acceptance and all, and other point of extreme acceptance, and then you go out into the real world and it's all exactly the opposite, constantly telling you that you should be ashamed of yourself and not even appear in public due to your body type.

Of course you're afraid. It would be like taking a sheltered home-schooled child who'd been raised on pacific ideology and media and suddenly shoving them into a public school where fights break out every recess and half the classes. The sheer contrast alone is terrifying, let alone the ramifications of what you're jumping from to what you're diving into.

And you know what? That's okay. Being afraid is okay. It's letting that fear stop you that's the problem.

I'm sure you've heard every pithy quote about course being the defiance of fear, not the absence of it, so I'm not going to say them myself. That interpretation of courage is popular for a reason.

If you go to a yoga class while still afraid, I can't promise that you will be any less afraid once your class is over, and I can't even promise that you will accept your body more or become less self-conscious or anything like that. You know what you will have done, though? Done something you were afraid to do. And that's if nothing else happens. I emphasize that because if you go to a yoga class - and keep going, not just quitting after the first or second session - there's a good chance you'll accept your body more or become less self-conscious, or you'll end up on a fitness kick big enough to lose the weight and become 'skinny', whatever that means to you. Who knows.

So be afraid, and take that fear into yoga class with you, and even in the worst case scenario short of not going, you'll come out a boss.

(And if you don't mind me being a bit insensitive, being a 'fatass' will give you an advantage over skinnier girls with certain types of yoga poses that involve balancing on said ass ;D).

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You also have the option of buying a yoga video and learning the poses yourself. Once I had a feel for the poses, I didn't even need to use the video anymore. Let your body be your instructor--if it hurts, ease up, if it feels good, you're doing it right.