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[(Anonymous)]

She's heavier than I'd say is healthy. These days, that's pretty much average, but that's not the same thing as normal.

I think the perception of what constitutes "fat" has broadened both upward and downward: practically nobody is as skinny as the airbrushed women in magazines, hence healthy women at a reasonable weight feel fat when they're not. On the other hand, because so many people are now overweight, parents are taking their normal-weight kids to the doctor worried because they're so much thinner than their peers! We really have no collective idea how much a normal person should weigh anymore.

At one time, if I remember right, a size 8 was considered ideal, and a 12 was dfinitely too big. But even that doesn't really mean much anymore since manufacturers have stopped standardizing their sizes, even to the point that if you buy two of the exact same item in the same size you need to try them both on to make sure they fit!

[(Anonymous)]

But why is it 'normal'? I don't know what the statistics for Canada are, but here I saw very few (not even obese) but chubby people growing up. The price of food in Canada is quite high but it seems like most people can afford fresh greens etc
Are the people in the U.S unable to afford healthy food+work longer hours? D:\

[(Anonymous)]

(another Canadian here)

But we also eat more fresh greens. And, well, fresh everything, basically. Because we have smaller cities, and outside the two big urban centres (comparing US-wise), the smaller cities don't have as much of a never-sleeps-grab-what-you-can attitude towards food and, life, basically.

I think most families here still make an effort to at least try and have one meal a day together. (Mine doesn't, because I don't really live with family, so.)

Food is so highly processed in the US, I don't think it's even possible to buy actual food, anymore. I mean basic food ingredients, that you have to assemble/cook yourself. Thankfully, we're still behind on following that trend, up here, or so it seems to me.

[(Anonymous)]

The US isnt that bad. People just choose not to buy actual food because they're morons.

[(Anonymous)]

Or because they live in food desserts or communities like a few Native American reservations where even the unhealthy food is outrageously priced.

[(Anonymous)]

Research the term "food desert" and apply it to the average resident of a low-income inner-city neighborhood. Then tell me people are morons.

[(Anonymous)]

This. There is the option (God knows that's where I am; I have the option of a cafeteria to feed me, but all the food there is terribly greasy and made to taste good, not be good for you, so I cook for myself 99% of the time), but most people don't take it because of convenience reasons. Also because sometimes a microwave is the only cooking appliance they have, and I nearly set the room I was living in on fire once trying to microwave gyros bites.

[diet_poison]

This is partly true. Fresh ingredients are absolutely available, but sometimes they're harder to afford.

[(Anonymous)]

I always hate seeing people say this, because where I live healthy and fresh foods ARE more expensive than the processed junk. Sometimes people forget that if you live in areas with colder weather and farther away from where fresh food is grown, it does cost more and can be harder to get enough of. My family and I struggle to eat better foods just because the cost of the good stuff is pricy most times of the year.

[(Anonymous)]

pretty much. i can't believe how many people actually think that buying a mcdonald's meal is cheaper than cooking from scratch. i can feed 4 people a healthy meal for under $6. that's just about what a single mcd's meal costs.

(Anon to which the first Canadian anon was replying)

[(Anonymous)]

It's possible, if you live near a large store that sells ingredients and fresh produce. A lot of people in poor big-city neighborhoods don't, unfortunately, and even folks who can access and afford good food often don't know much about real cooking anymore, but some still do.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

In a lot of cases, yeah :/ The exact reasons are hotly debated, and there's probably a bunch of them all acting in concert.

Fast food everywhere, years of portion inflation (we only fairly recently got away from "super sizing" everything,) sweetening of foods that don't need it, declining physical activity for just all kinds of reasons, overeating as a means of self-comforting, poor food available in schools and inner cities, marketing of unhealthy foods to kids, poor understanding of nutrition among many adults, a ferociously meat-centric culture, celebrity TV chefs who drown everything in butter, the loss of home-cooking as a skill in much of the population, the deep-frying of literally anything edible, you name it. The deck's really stacked against us.

Also, our government is particularly bad about allowing all sorts of nasty additives to be used without testing or regulation. I read recently that something like 80% of our food here has stuff in it that's outlawed in food in Europe. idk how much of that contributes directly to our national weight problem, but it can't be helping. ;_;

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

everything this anon said, pretty much

you know your (terrible, sad) stuff ;(

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I gotta ask, what the hell was up with portion inflation? I've never met anyone who wasn't flabbergasted at the size of food portions when they visited the U.S. Do you know if there was any particular reason for that?

Re: AYRT

[bur]

No idea, but I like it because it means I can get the next day's lunch and a partial dinner (or maybe another lunch) out of that stupidly big meal the restaurant serves me.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I might also chime in with the "agree wholeheartedly," but with this added perspective. The country's infrastructure, by and large, isn't set up to encourage physical activity in movement beyond driving.

I grew up in Texas, although for right now I'm living in California. Lovely state. I can get Shiner Bock out here.

Anyway it really struck me when I came out here to California that, holy God, there are WALKING PATHS and BIKE LANES. It was a new thing to me. And you know what? People use them. There's bike lanes on the highway. In Austin, to be sure, they have things like that, but Austin is not the norm. I'm from Dallas, and that city (actually, the whole Metroplex, which is DFW)? Has nothing by way of public transportation (well; there is, but it's definitely associated with use by people with lower income) and nothing for people who actually want to walk. Everything is very spread out, and zoned so that people have far less incentive to bother walking when it will take an hour to get there--and then another hour to carry stuff back with you isn't appealing either.

So people don't walk or bike. They just eat out a lot and drive everywhere. And there are a lot of people in Texas who simply think they'd be useless gestures and no one would use them.

[(Anonymous)]

There's actually a real problem with the availability of affordable fresh fruits/vegetables/meats/fishes in parts of the country here.

[(Anonymous)]

"heavier than is healthy" Oh please, do the science before you fling off lazy judgements.

[(Anonymous)]

You just keep on believing whatever makes you happy, anon. That girl is not at a healthy size, and denying it doesn't help anybody

[(Anonymous)]

Perfect, absolute picture of health? No, you're right, she isn't. But it's entirely possible that this girl exercises and eats better than your average American. There are different ways to be healthy, or at least MORE healthy. I would say that's a reasonable way to look if you've battled an eating disorder.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, while weight can be associated with various health issues, outside of gross obesity, weight is actually generally a minor aspect of health.

[(Anonymous)]

"It's not her fault, but her tragedy" so can we all just stop with this shit? It's a nationwide problem, so why not deal with it by discussing redundant fashions instead of clogging up the comments with petty squabbling?

[(Anonymous)]

Right. Could you please ask the girl in the picture to step over here for a moment so I can check her blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol and triglycerides and run a stress test? Oh wait.

I'm not saying the lady is massively, hideously fat (hell, she's doing better than I am. Believe me, I am definitely too fat for my own good, so I'm not looking down my nose here.) But even allowing that the standard charts doctors use aren't terribly realistic and that individuals differ, she's a little on the chunky side and there's a not-insignificant chance that it will eventually cause her some problems.

Sorry if acknowledging that fat isn't an awesome thing to be offends you, and that you feel it necessary to fling off nasty remarks at people who disagree with you.

[(Anonymous)]

"Not insignificant"

Back that up with facts! What probability are you using to determine significance?

What statistical test did you use? Some are considerably more rigorous than others.

[(Anonymous)]

There are different types of fat though. Tummy fat that gathers around your organs is the bad stuff.

Fat in your thighs has like no effect. She doesn't have any fat on her stomach she's probably perfectly healthy.