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But why is it 'normal'? I don't know what the statistics for Canada are, but here I saw very few (not even obese) but chubby people growing up. The price of food in Canada is quite high but it seems like most people can afford fresh greens etc
Are the people in the U.S unable to afford healthy food+work longer hours? D:\

(another Canadian here)

But we also eat more fresh greens. And, well, fresh everything, basically. Because we have smaller cities, and outside the two big urban centres (comparing US-wise), the smaller cities don't have as much of a never-sleeps-grab-what-you-can attitude towards food and, life, basically.

I think most families here still make an effort to at least try and have one meal a day together. (Mine doesn't, because I don't really live with family, so.)

Food is so highly processed in the US, I don't think it's even possible to buy actual food, anymore. I mean basic food ingredients, that you have to assemble/cook yourself. Thankfully, we're still behind on following that trend, up here, or so it seems to me.

The US isnt that bad. People just choose not to buy actual food because they're morons.

Or because they live in food desserts or communities like a few Native American reservations where even the unhealthy food is outrageously priced.

LMFAO FOOD "DESSERTS"

Research the term "food desert" and apply it to the average resident of a low-income inner-city neighborhood. Then tell me people are morons.

This. There is the option (God knows that's where I am; I have the option of a cafeteria to feed me, but all the food there is terribly greasy and made to taste good, not be good for you, so I cook for myself 99% of the time), but most people don't take it because of convenience reasons. Also because sometimes a microwave is the only cooking appliance they have, and I nearly set the room I was living in on fire once trying to microwave gyros bites.

This is partly true. Fresh ingredients are absolutely available, but sometimes they're harder to afford.

I always hate seeing people say this, because where I live healthy and fresh foods ARE more expensive than the processed junk. Sometimes people forget that if you live in areas with colder weather and farther away from where fresh food is grown, it does cost more and can be harder to get enough of. My family and I struggle to eat better foods just because the cost of the good stuff is pricy most times of the year.

pretty much. i can't believe how many people actually think that buying a mcdonald's meal is cheaper than cooking from scratch. i can feed 4 people a healthy meal for under $6. that's just about what a single mcd's meal costs.

It's possible, if you live near a large store that sells ingredients and fresh produce. A lot of people in poor big-city neighborhoods don't, unfortunately, and even folks who can access and afford good food often don't know much about real cooking anymore, but some still do.

In a lot of cases, yeah :/ The exact reasons are hotly debated, and there's probably a bunch of them all acting in concert.

Fast food everywhere, years of portion inflation (we only fairly recently got away from "super sizing" everything,) sweetening of foods that don't need it, declining physical activity for just all kinds of reasons, overeating as a means of self-comforting, poor food available in schools and inner cities, marketing of unhealthy foods to kids, poor understanding of nutrition among many adults, a ferociously meat-centric culture, celebrity TV chefs who drown everything in butter, the loss of home-cooking as a skill in much of the population, the deep-frying of literally anything edible, you name it. The deck's really stacked against us.

Also, our government is particularly bad about allowing all sorts of nasty additives to be used without testing or regulation. I read recently that something like 80% of our food here has stuff in it that's outlawed in food in Europe. idk how much of that contributes directly to our national weight problem, but it can't be helping. ;_;

everything this anon said, pretty much

you know your (terrible, sad) stuff ;(

I gotta ask, what the hell was up with portion inflation? I've never met anyone who wasn't flabbergasted at the size of food portions when they visited the U.S. Do you know if there was any particular reason for that?

No idea, but I like it because it means I can get the next day's lunch and a partial dinner (or maybe another lunch) out of that stupidly big meal the restaurant serves me.

this, it's great because i get two or three meals for the price of one.

I'm not sure...a mix of gluttony and lack of perspective? But I find it frustrating.

Yep. There are a few reasons, but one of the big (pun not intended) ones is the way agriculture works in the US, and increasingly, around the world. Most farms in the US these days are factory farms; they grow one crop really well over a really large swath of land. Less than 2% of the US population are farmers, and the US farm subsidies, where the government buys surplus grain, soy, milk, and meat to keep prices stable, are how most farmers earn their living. The subsidies are basically rigged so that the only way farmers can make any money at all is to keep increasing their crop/meat/milk yields. But the population hasn't grown as fast as the food supply, and even with stuff like biofuels (which often require petroleum fertilizers to grow, so they kind of suck) there's still a lot more calories being produced in the US than people can reasonably be expected to eat. So the makers of processed foods spend a lot of money on advertising and a lot of effort to get frozen, fried, salty, sugary stuff into places like school cafeterias, where kids develop a taste for it. Lots of people don't really know how to cook anymore. And the end result of this and a lot of other stuff (poverty's a big one) is that Americans don't have reasonable appetites anymore. We eat something like 500 calories more a day than we did thirty-forty years ago. (Fresh fruits and veggies don't get subsidized mostly, 'cause they're hard to store. There's been a lot of 'public-interest/expose' type books on the subject released in recent years, Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser and The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan are both informative reads on the subject. -a fat American who would like to apologize for the essay.

wait, so the fresh produce is sold less and is more expensive? I've watched those documentaries btw, but I tend to watch them with a grain of salt because they tend to be sensationalist in nature...

Yeah--depends where you live, but white flour and sugar and stuff are shelf-stable and so cost way less to store and ship than lettuce and kale and strawberries and whatever else. And I didn't know The Omnivore's Dilemma was a documentary, in both cases, I read the books--which have foot/end notes to check sources with.

We take like half our meal home.

If you go to an upscale restaurant they'll serve you normal serving sizes.

I might also chime in with the "agree wholeheartedly," but with this added perspective. The country's infrastructure, by and large, isn't set up to encourage physical activity in movement beyond driving.

I grew up in Texas, although for right now I'm living in California. Lovely state. I can get Shiner Bock out here.

Anyway it really struck me when I came out here to California that, holy God, there are WALKING PATHS and BIKE LANES. It was a new thing to me. And you know what? People use them. There's bike lanes on the highway. In Austin, to be sure, they have things like that, but Austin is not the norm. I'm from Dallas, and that city (actually, the whole Metroplex, which is DFW)? Has nothing by way of public transportation (well; there is, but it's definitely associated with use by people with lower income) and nothing for people who actually want to walk. Everything is very spread out, and zoned so that people have far less incentive to bother walking when it will take an hour to get there--and then another hour to carry stuff back with you isn't appealing either.

So people don't walk or bike. They just eat out a lot and drive everywhere. And there are a lot of people in Texas who simply think they'd be useless gestures and no one would use them.

There's actually a real problem with the availability of affordable fresh fruits/vegetables/meats/fishes in parts of the country here.

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