[ SECRET POST #2384 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2384 ⌋

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Comments

[inkmage]

I've heard other people make this argument too, and I finally figured out why it always sounds weird to me. I think people are talking about two or three different kinds of "bad" here.

The first is bad in terms of SPaG errors and general crappy "how did you pass third grade?" writing. You do see a lot of this in fanfiction, it's true, and I'm sure at least a little of it creeps into professional writing before the editors attack it with red pens. (Note: having read the fanfic 50 Shades used to be, or at least the first part of it, EL James clearly does not have this problem. Many others, yes, but not this one.)

The second is bad in terms of poor word choice, inconsistent characterization, and the like. You get a lot of it in YA. This is what a lot of people are talking about when they say 50 Shades has bad writing; however, it's a lot harder to point at a specific thing in a work that's this kind of bad and say, "Yes, change that and everything will be better." In a fanfic, unbeta'd, this is about what most people shoot for and are happy with; not every fanfic author is, of course, a professional writer.

The third kind, which is what most people talk about when they say 50 Shades is "bad" or "problematic", is bad in terms of material that presents awful or wrong information in a positive light. This kind of bad is why we're all up in arms about 50 Shades, instead of just shaking our heads and moving on; it's actively telling people that a) abuse, rape, and sexism are ~so romantic~, and b) BDSM practitioners are creepy, mentally ill, fucked up, victims of past abuse, or any combination of the above.

I'm unsure of if there are actually different words for these separate concepts, because I just got off work and my brain is conking out. But we should probably make the distinction either way.

[i_paint_the_sky]

Okay, I guess that makes sense. That said, I still don't think 50 Shades is really that bad, or at least that it's not bad fan fiction since it improves upon the source material in that aspect by actually recognizing the unhealthiness the relationship sometimes has.

Plus, most of the places I've seen it have definitely seemed to be calling it bad in the first way you defined.