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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-14 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2385 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't fucking stand Dobby. He manages to make Gollum look dignified.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I've heard if you hate Gollum you have no soul (always hated this character and I don't care that he is a tragic figure - he's still an asshole)
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[personal profile] fenm 2013-07-14 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, wasn't Smeagol kind of an ass anyway? He got the Ring by killing his cousin, who found it. There's the argument that "he was influenced by the Ring to do it", but there are characters who were around the Ring longer than Smeagol had been at that point who were able to resist its influence, so that argument doesn't work, imo.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, no. Not really. My inner Tolkien nerd is about to come out, sorry. Up to that point, the only other person who had had the ring for an extended period of time was Isildur who took it directly from the hand of Sauron. When confronted with the chance to destroy it, Isildur decided he wanted to keep it instead. I wouldn't call that resisting it's influence. Anybody else who had been in close proximity of the ring for the time Isildur had it knew better because they knew what it was. He also only had it a couple of years before he was killed and the ring was lost in Anduin.

A couple thousand years later when Deagol and Smeagol found the ring, they had no idea what it was or any of it's properties or history, they only each felt a desire for it upon touching it. Smeagol had it a few hundred years before Bilbo came along, waaaay longer than any other mortal who came to possess the ring afterwards. And of course after that length of time, Gollum (at this point) would be completely addicted, obsessed and enamored with it. Couple the influence of the ring itself with the fact that it was all he had and, yeah. It's pretty damn tragic. Even Frodo, who had done so well to journey with it all the way across Middle-earth, failed to destroy it in the end. The only character who was able to fully resist the ring's draw was Tom Bombadil.

Now. Oh, wait. This post was about Harry Potter, huh. Whoops.
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[personal profile] fenm 2013-07-19 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, see, I was thinking of the fact that Smeagol killed his cousin to get it pretty much right after finding it, while Bilbo was, with some effort, able to leave it behind, etc. But you're right about them knowing what it was, so...

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really hate Gollum, but I am *terrified* of him. My mom didn't introduce me to fandom until the Lord of the Rings movies came out because I was so scared of Gollum when I saw him in the animated The Hobbit. It took me until last year to learn that she's a really big geek. Wait, I guess I do hate Gollum since he scared me so much I missed out on fun geek stuff with my mom!
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[personal profile] fenm 2013-07-15 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Call me weird, or maybe it's nostalgia goggles; but honestly, I think I like the Rankin Bass Gollum more than the Jackson one...

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
They all terrify me equally, so I don't have a preference :)

I nearly fled the theater during The Two Towers when he made his appearance. I did run out on the animated version, I think I cried too but I was four or five, so I'm not sure.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I was terrified of the Gollum on the cover of the copy of The Hobbit my parents attempted to read to me when I was four.