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⌈ Secret Post #2392 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

That's a ridiculous analogy. Rape victims have no culpability in their assault, especially regarding their clothing (WTF, anyone with a clue knows that) -- their assaulters made the conscious decision to hurt them. Drugs do not have a conscious mind to decide to force themselves upon you and make you addicted to them.

Look, I understand where you're coming from, and nobody starts taking drugs with the knowledge that they will someday become an addict. But they decide at the beginning to engage in risky behavior.

Maybe a better analogy would be people who choose to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, or something.

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[(Anonymous)]

(DA)

Please tell me you aren't serious.

You can't compare a rapist deciding to rape someone (=hurting someone else) with someone deciding consuming addicting substance (=risking hurting themselves).

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[(Anonymous)]

Stop using the rape analogy. It doesn't apply because in rape there is a rapist. Who is a person who makes choices, including the choice to rape someone else. Drugs are not people and they don't choose anything.

We aren't talking about *deserving* or not deserving. Whether or not I think someone deserves whatever bad thing happened to them, I'm still going to think that they should get all the help they need.

That doesn't mean I'm not going to think that they made shitty decisions.

(frozen comment) Re: tw rape

[(Anonymous)]

Rape - There is a rapist who rape people
Drugs - There is a person who uses drugs

WTF with this analogy.

(frozen comment) Re: tw rape

[(Anonymous)]

Dressing skimpily is not KNOWN to cause rape in the way that taking drugs is KNOWN to cause addiction. In the one case, you are talking about a person who is ACTED UPON, by an outside force, which has no actual correlation to the action of the victim. In the other case, you are talking about a person who ACTS, by their own free will, in a way that DOES have a direct correlation to the outcome of the matter. Strawman ahoy, dear.

(frozen comment) Re: tw rape

[(Anonymous)]

Still a shitty analogy.

Clothing does NOT cause rape, rapists do.

Drugs DO cause addiction.

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[(Anonymous)]

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I am amazed at how many people think you're actually arguing in favor of that phraseology instead of pointing out that it's wrong. :O

(frozen comment) Re: tw rape

[(Anonymous)]

It's still fucking offensive as hell, even if they are arguing against it because those things *aren't* fucking comparable.

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[(Anonymous)]

also DA

Seriously? That is NOT a fucking valid analogy. You can't honestly believe it is. Having control over someone else's actions is NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING as having control over YOUR OWN actions.

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[insanenoodlyguy]

You were being good and logical above Stella, but you just went full strawman.

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[diet_poison]

Ok, I think you've been pretty reasonable in this thread so far, but the rape analogy? I don't think that's a good thing to be doing. And it is, for reasons listed by other commenters, a very bad analogy.

The motorcycle helmet analogy was better.