[ SECRET POST #2393 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2393 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

You are not as special as you think you are. No one knows who you are.

[(Anonymous)]

And you know that how? Maybe the OP is talking about a friend (or two) who reads F!S and will realize who the OP is.

[chardmonster]

Haha! You're an asshole.

[mekkio]

You would suck as a motivational speaker.

[(Anonymous)]

the only person I can think of would be 30 rock office or whatever they changed their name to

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is the character Don Draper from the TV show "Mad Men" wearing a gray suit and sitting on a leather couch in front of a wide window that shows several skyscrapers during nighttime. He is a man with slicked back dark hair and pale skin. He has a lit cigarette between his fingers and is sitting in a confident pose.]

I'm a huge Mad Men fan, and I've seen every episode, but I go on tumblr and people can pinpoint what season it is just by clothing or a quote. I do my best to participate and be active in fandom, but I feel like a bad fan for not being able to rattle off all the facts and figures.

Not secret: This secret is going to give me away faster than you can say "sexism in the sixties".
Bonus secret: I started rewatching the series this morning.

[(Anonymous)]

I never have any idea either. If it makes you feel better, I'm sure a lot of those fans either grew up closer to / in that era or used google. I don't think most fans do know off bat.

I personally don't even care as much about the fashion aspect of the fandom. Reading Tom and Lorenzo's the closest I've gotten.

[mekkio]

I love the costumes on that show. But one thing that struck me is that for all the fabulous fashion that the early 60's had, the place must have stunk to the high heavens because everyone smoked. Not just a scattered few who smoked outside, huddled by the exit. But the office air must have been thick with it. Ugh. What a trade off, Nice clothes but they smell like Joe the Camel died in them.

[chardmonster]

Dude, I'm an actual history person specializing mostly in the twentieth century and I can't do that.

If people are trying to exclude you for not being some kind of expert on the sixties, they're assholes. You shouldn't feel bad.

Also: I guarantee you they are using google.

[mrs_don_draper]

Yeah, you're probably right. But it would be so cool to be able to do that. :)

[(Anonymous)]

Oh hey. It's that one person who always mentions Mad Men. Hi, person who always mentions Mad Men. Sup?

[(Anonymous)]

Pop quiz time!

1.) Do you like the show? Yes / No
2.) Are you an asshole? Yes / No

If you said Yes to 1 and No to 2, congratulations! You're a good fan! People express their fannishness in different ways, and as long as you're not an asshole about it (see the all-important Question 2), then you qualify as a good fan. Don't beat yourself up over it, OP. (:

[forgottenjester]

Okay, why do people always bring up the "memorization of minute details" and, like, the main skill "real geeks" have? Because to me it's a skill I can replicate if I'm able to get on google. It's something that a lot of people I come across don't care much about and it's overall not as impressive, as say, creating your own very well done cosplay.

So why is it always held up as the number one skill to be worshiped when I never actually see that happening? Are there people just out there on the internet quizzing each other on all the things they memorized about Doctor Who and I'm not aware of it? I generally don't see people being so worshipful of this skill so color me extremely confused.

But OP, also, why do you buy into this as being the only was to be a "real fan" or "good enough"? What do memorization skills have anything to do with liking something?

[mrs_don_draper]

You have a good point. I don't need to hold myself to such a standard to enjoy something. :)

[(Anonymous)]

JME, but when I was a kidlet, I knew exactly which episode of Star Trek (TOS/TNG/DS9) was airing, knew the titles, names of the guest stars, etc., within seconds of seeing the teaser. Pre-Internet days.

...do you think I can do that now??? NOT A CHANCE. I think it was the fact that I was young and obsessed and now I am neither (ha ha *koff*) but if kids today are googling everything, instead of using their amazing and elastic brains for the limited amount of time they've got them, I weep for humanity, man.

[(Anonymous)]

The other day, I recognized a screencap from Malcolm in the Middle by the back of the one kid's head. I liked the show well enough when it came on but never went out of my way to watch it and wouldn't call myself a fan. I don't know what episode the cap came from. I don't even remember the name of the character I recognized. Being able to recall minute details isn't a fannish value judgement, it's just a thing that some people can do.

[(Anonymous)]

I think if you're enjoying yourself and not being an ass to other people in fandom, you're doing just fine.

[sootyowl]

I can't do that either. It doesn't matter how many times I've watched something, I suck at remembering episode titles and episode #s. It doesn't mean I don't love a show as much as someone who can tell me what Buffy wore in season 4 episode 6 though.

Plus, they might be using a search engine for all their info. You never know on the net.

[ninety6tears]

Even though I really like Mad Men I am always blanking on details from earlier seasons. I could really use a cheat sheet of all the great things and all the shitty things every character has done because I feel like I'm losing track of how I feel about a lot of the characters.

[othellia]

I can do that for the RTD seasons of Doctor Who and that's about it. And that's only because I used to belong to a macro community where people would pull in screencaps from a bunch of different episode and tag them all, and over several months you ended up being able to go, "Oh, I need a cap of Ten with a :[ face. Ooh... that one macro from a couple weeks ago had a really good one. What episode was that... oh, it was that split-second frown he had from the end of Blink. *stores in memory*," and repeat. Also being a gif/icon maker helps. That and I've watched all of those episodes now at least seven times each.

Also, cosplay really helps. Name me any Season 5 episode and I can tell you what outfit Amy Pond wears in it. But then by Season 6, I'd moved on so if you asked me about the clothes in those episodes, I'd shrug and say IDK.

And that's just one fandom. I have a bunch of others I'd consider myself a "huge fan" of that I've seen every episode of, but for those I can't even remember half the episode titles let alone specific quotes or outfits from them. So... yeah.

Not quite exactly sure where I was going with this, but I guess it's something like if you aren't an icon/gif/macro maker who either cosplays or has seen every episode not just once but 7+ times, I wouldn't worry about it.

May the power of Google compel you!

[nyxelestia]

AKA there's a good chance those people are not rattlings things off the top of their heads, either - they're just good at utilizing Google and/or era- and fandom-specific databases.

Or, it's less about facts and more about emotion (it's always easier to remember things when there's emotion attached, even if it means you're more likely to remember things incorrectly). It's less "Oh, that peach dress was the one she wore in this episode in this seasons" and more "I hated that peach dress, and I remember her wearing it during that scene which was in this episode of this season".

But honestly, I'll bet it's the first one. I sure as hell do it, and I know plenty of others who do as well. I generally don't say where or how I found something, I just state the information I find, and I assume others do the same until explicitly proven otherwise.

[lemiru]

this obsession fannish people have about real fans vs fake fans is ridiculous imho. You like something, you are a fan. You don't have to "earn" the title. You just have to like something, that is all. And people giving grief to others for not knowing every bit of trivia there is have their priorities all jumbled up.

[(Anonymous)]

Not everyone has to be obsessive, though I do think if you're in fandom, it should be assumed that you're into it enough to notice some minor details. OTOH everyone notices/cares about different things. In a class I took where we spent a whole semester on a book, in other words became obsessed for grade purposes, all of us focused on completely different things, and there were people who noticed things some of us hadn't. One person did her paper on a character nobody else had even really considered, even though looking back the character is actually quite important. It doesn't mean we weren't "really" involved, our interests in the specifics just varied.

[antoj]

I sometimes forget stuff that's happened in shows I watch regularly, even though I really do enjoy them. I don't think it makes me any worse of a fan though. :')

On the other hand, if I watch something 5+ times I am very very likely to remember even the tiniest details about it. lol. Maybe we just need to watch everything more....!?