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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-24 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2395 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2395 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Most Popular Girls in School]


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03.
[Welcome to Night Vale]


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[Gerard Way and Frank Iero]


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[Mastumoto Jun]


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[Macdonald Hall]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[Generator Rex]


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[Neil Oliver]


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[Star Trek]


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[Star Trek: TNG]


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[The Vampire Diaries]













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deadtree: (Default)

Re: be honest

[personal profile] deadtree 2013-07-25 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
okay but housewives/househusbands potential might BE all the skills required to be good at that job. Being good at parenting, cooking, cleaning, etc are all skills/talents and not everyone has them. Just because they don't get a paycheck doesn't mean it's not valuable work.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: be honest

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-07-25 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I never said it's not valuable. I'm having trouble seeing it as satisfying though, personally. Also as we were talking about a plan B, I wonder what theirs is. I mean, say you divorce and haven't been on the job market for 10 years. I have a friend who was home with her kids for like 8 or so years. Now this woman is incredibly, incredibly intelligent. But it was dead hard getting employed after that gap, and she's working way below her abilities now.

Re: be honest

(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, just because YOU don't see it as satisfying doesn't mean TONS of people do. And believe it or not, lots people have, I don't know, *FAITH* in their good marriage.

Stop being so obtuse and judgy.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: be honest

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-07-25 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't understand placing so much faith in one person, I guess. I always assume relationships CAN go wrong.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: be honest

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-25 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess that just reflects a difference in how people approach partnerships?

I don't know, I'm single right now and fine with it, but eventually I want to get married. I don't mean like "married until something goes wrong" either. I want to find someone to whom I can be committed for life, and he to me, and if something goes wrong, we'll work on it. Marriage isn't supposed to be easy. Relationships aren't easy. I don't view life partnership as being transient.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: be honest

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-07-26 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I guess that's the difference, then. I see everything in life as inherently transient, if only because no-one's getting out alive.

Re: be honest

(Anonymous) 2013-07-26 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Let's be real, they also have faith that their spouse isn't going to suddenly be diagnosed with cancer or be hit by a bus on the way home from work. Also, one person having faith in the relationship doesn't always translate to BOTH people having faith in the relationship (unfortunately). Nothing wrong with planning in some small way for the worst (like maintaining some viable job skill) to ensure you'll be able to land on your feet if something goes awry.

Re: be honest

(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Oh please, being a housewife has nothing to do with being a good parent. Exactly 100% of housewives I've met irl think that good parenting is doing all the cleaning/housework so their kids don't learn any valuable life skills. Cleaning does not inherently make you a good mom, staying home all day does not inherently make you a good mom, nor does cooking. And moms who work don't "not" do these things, either.
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Re: be honest

[personal profile] deadtree 2013-07-25 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
uh yeah that's true, but being employed somewhere doesn't necessarily mean you're good at it, you know that, right?
but it's good to know that you've met every housewife ever.

Re: be honest

(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
lol what part of "every housewife I've met" equated in your brain to "every housewife in the world ever"? jw.

Being employed somewhere doesn't mean you're good at your job, sure. but you are being financially responsible if nothing else. and having a job or not has absolutely NOTHING to do with being a good parent, which was what my point was. being a stay at home mom isn't going to automatically make you a good parent, good spouse, good homeowner, anything.

Re: be honest

(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Just speaking personally; I had to start running a household when I was 13 years old. It's work, and requires developing skills, but it's minimum wage work any kid could do if they had to. I think homemaking gets glorified a lot too - if you told someone that your life ambition was to be a housecleaner or hotel maid most people would wonder if you'd really be happy doing that for 40+ years and would encourage you to think a bit bigger, but if you say you want to be a homemaker or housespouse we're not supposed to think the same thing?
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Re: be honest

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-25 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
How are those equatable? cleaning =/= everything a homemaker does

Re: be honest

(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not everything a professional maid does either. But it's the same ballpark, in that it's unchallenging and mostly menial. I'm not talking out of my ass here - like I said, I spent my teens running a household. It's a minimum wage-level job.
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Re: be honest

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-28 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
k, what else does a professional maid do, that you know of?