ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-10-02 02:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #270 ]


⌈ Secret Post #270 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

-The F!S Friending Meme! Go do it moar!
- NAME THAT FANDOM, FIRST COMMENT. Modly-lady is in school :3

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 130 secrets from Secret Submission Post #039.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken link, 0 not!fandom, [1] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] halevy.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
You can read about I'VE SOUND here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I've). :)

But to name a few artists, KOTOKO, SHIHO, Lia, Eiko Shimamiya, Mami Kawada, MELL, AYANA and many more. Though I think the group's smaller these days.

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[identity profile] tardious.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Whoops, I knew there were fans here.

That and I think Himeko shouldn't of been automatically back on her feet to Chikane? If was on the subject a little bit longer on it, or shown some caution towards her I would of probably enjoyed it instead of bashing my head in. Plus, Chikane I understand you want to drive away Himeko into hating you, but honestly why rape?

I mean, as much as it was a happy ending [sort of because red string of fate lol] if things were made a tad more realistic in terms of reactions, I think I would find myself shipping the pairing.

Though I'll give it one thing, the anime was a marked improvement over the manga. I guess as a person who has been told THIS IS THE BEST YURI ANIMU EVER and got severely disappointed. :( I'll be going back to my Marimite and Revolutionary Girl Utena now.

[identity profile] batmarg.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
1. I totally agree.

3. Totally with lilim.

7. AC was awesome. No, it wasn't the game, but it was still good.

14. The way I see it is, if it has Urahara, it's good.

22. I think Snape is a great character. No, he isn't a romantic; yes, he did love Lily; yes, James eventually became the better man. BUT if he hadn't been so interested in the dark arts(according to JK) Lily would've fallen for him.

23. i don't really like the show...Kamina on the other hand....

30....I miss Dobby!

36. OMG! ME TOO!!!!!!

Re: 8.

[identity profile] abyss-of-colors.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Sad but true. :\

Re: 22

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, you nailed it. In JKR's universe she really focuses on choice. She gives us characters with similar upbringings, and shows us how it is their personal choices and not their environment that matters. It doesn't matter what you are born, it's the choices you make. Whether this is consistent with real psychology is not really relevant, I think. It's the message within her fictional universe. Although Tom and Harry really embody this a lot better than Snape and Harry, I think.

Snape's tragedy isn't his upbringing (in fact we know next to nothing about it), it's the poor choices he made and not realizing what they were soon enough.
lanerose: (Tutu ~ Fairytale)

[personal profile] lanerose 2007-10-03 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
HEY YOURSELF~!!!

HAHA, I ♥ you~!!! ^_^

[identity profile] terrie.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
There are two live-action movies (I think) that were actually made before the anime, which was made as a prequel. I've only seen parts of them though. :(
albijuli: (...)

[personal profile] albijuli 2007-10-03 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't 33 a repeat?

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
6. Is that poly? No drama plz
11. Word. I love them so so much. :P
26. IchiNel = The only Ichigo pairing I LIKE.
32. I can't see this pairing as romantic from either side.

Re: 23

[identity profile] sirhellsing420.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Actually I think #17 is the time skip. #15 was the end of a story arc, and I've heard #16 is just another recap episode.

[identity profile] happy-cupcake.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard of some of the individual singers before (like KOTOKO and Lia) but I didn't know or realize that the musicians were all the same.

Thank you for the article link and I love that icon! The picture itself was beautiful, but that tint just makes it +_+

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[identity profile] who-said-bitta.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Bwahaha, I'm so glad I'm not the only one. xD Not quite as many opportunities for daydreaming this semester, but the last two? oh yeah. xD Rock on, yo.
lanerose: (KHII ~ Roxas ~ Miss Me)

Re: 37

[personal profile] lanerose 2007-10-03 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I don't entirely agree. One of the main themes was also friendship - and when Sora went to talk about his friends, nine times out of ten he was gesturing at Donald and Goofy. Donald and Goofy were there for Sora pretty much the entire trip. Both of them were a major part of the games. I could maybe understand if in AU Destiny-Islands-only settings you wouldn't want them there, but most of KH fandom doesn't do that. The fandom seems to be heavily biased against their inclusion mainly because they're anthropomorphic, and that's... a little wrong, given that characters like Organization XIII and Roxas are technically also not human. It would be really interesting to see human!Donald and human!Goofy in AU fic, actually, now that I'm thinking about it - to bring their personalities to present in the way that you might see... oh... Demyx or Roxas, for example.

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:30 am (UTC)(link)

1. Alas, it seems most of the foundations for fanfic are based off one's desire to pair X character with Y character, and I'm just as guilty as anyone else. But what I wouldn't give to read a good fic that wasn't driven by pairings.

7. I wish it was two different fandoms. I've sounded off on this too many times to count now, so it's really a dead subject because I don't even like the fandom any longer.

14. At least some of the Bleach filler has a purpose ... but I still can't stand them. They have a manga to catch up with now and yet we still had to endure more filler. I actually haven't picked up watching the anime since the last bout of filler.

18. That is hot, liek woah.

25. I have a love/hate relationship with Gravi because of what it has created. But seriously, that show was shiny crack.

38. Whatever gets you through, yanno. My best friend and I had a hellish job at a restaurant a few years ago, the only thing that kept me from putting one of my manager's head on a pike was thinking about hot men snogging. It was her suggestion that I think of the pretty men whenever I'd start seeing red at the manager's idiocy. I later did lose it and lash out at another manager -- the first one I dislike ended up becoming my favourite over time, go figure -- and quit. But hey, for a few months yaoi saved me from killing someone. Lol.

[identity profile] panksters.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
18 GOD YES.

22 I agree with this so hard. Snape was a creepy, stalker, bitter douchecock. Harry naming his kad after Snape made no sense.

[identity profile] panksters.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Could you really fall for a guy that hated your race (or whatever they consider mudbloods)?

Re: 22

[identity profile] anogete.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
1 - Snape genuinely though that becoming a DE would impress Lily. This is easily backed up by canon and bits found in DH. He thought becoming someone important (as the DEs had promised him he would be) would make her think better of him. Unfortunately, he was wrong. So, I don't think he thought of the choice as DE vs. Lily. He thought once he was a DE, then he would be important, and therefore become more important to her. JKR said this in several post-DH interviews.

2 - I disagree with the clinging comment. I think he did cling to Lily. He wanted her to like everything he did, not necessarily because he liked it, but because it made him look more powerful and important in her eyes. He built his world around her. (Not really a good thing to do.)

Which leads to the third point...

3 - When she picked James over him, he flipped out. Like so many, he wanted revenge, especially when she chose the one guy that made his life so much harder at school. It was a sort of betrayal to him. I'm no saying Lily was wrong in picking James. I'm just saying that it hurt him deeply. He was working so hard to earn her approval (in all the wrong ways, mind you) that her rejection of that lifestyle cut him to the bone.

4 - Of course he was trying to survive. The Wizarding World was in turmoil at the time. Voldemort was on the rise. He had fallen in with a bad crowd. And just like a gang, it's hard to get out once you're in. I imagine the DE would be the same way. Once you've taken the mark, you're stuck. The mark was a mistake of huge proportions, but it was a mistake nonetheless.

5 - As for Harry, I maintain that part of his overt hatred of Harry was for show. However, I'm sure he retained a deep dislike of Harry because he was James' song. Snape was a petty person. And I think a great deal of that pettiness stemmed from his childhood.

6 - And about caring for the death of a child... Of course he didn't. He's in a bind. The one person who has shown him true kindness is in jeopardy. He doesn't think he can save everyone, but he might be able to save her. Is it noble or brave? Hell no. Is it realistic for a man with the emotional IQ of a ten year old to grasp at that straw? Of course. I'm not saying he loved Lily unconditionally. I'm not saying it was romantic or beautiful. I'm just saying that I don't think he was quite the asshole that you're making him out to be when one looks back and takes his entire life into account.

[identity profile] maeda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
22 I agree, but... that's partly why he ended up being my overall favorite. I guess I'm just drawn to characters with way too many flaws.

[identity profile] maeda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
He DIDN'T hate them, though, did he?

[identity profile] wazira-sharira.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'm the person who wanted Kingdom Hearts after one commercial because I squealed YAY, JAFAR IS IN THIS!!!, so you're not the only one. The Disney characters made that game what it is, why would some moron want to deny their existence for KH RP's?

Re: 22

[identity profile] anogete.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
The main point is that Harry had the belief that he HAD been loved. He knew he had parents, and even if those who raised him didn't tell him his parents loved he, he thought that they probably did. This is canon. I believe Harry mused over his parents' love for him several times. Snape knew for a fact that he wasn't loved or cared for by his parents. There is a big difference between holding out hope that someone has loved you and knowing that no one ever has. And that's a difference big enough to account for the behavior difference in Harry and Snape.

I don't remember it being mentioned anywhere that Snape's mother gave him the nickname Prince. It was simply her maiden name. I think it comes across quite clearly from the early memories that he received little to no affection as a child, especially in his reaction to Lily and Petunia.

At any rate, I don't see either of us changing our minds about this. Snape is doomed to be considered an asshole by many, and a romantic hero by many more. I'm somewhere in the middle. I appreciate him a character. I still like him a great deal, even with the flaws. However, I don't deny that those flaws exist. I just seem to have a bit more sympathy for him than the haters and a bit more realism than the lovers.

I'm sure this debate could go on for ages, but I'm going to end my part in it right here. Ta ta!

Re: 22

[identity profile] panksters.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I love you so hardcore, like it's not even funny. Every time I had a thought pop into my head in response to anogete, you said the same thing right away.

I fear you may have stolen my brain :(

Re: 8.

[identity profile] zoom-gas.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
CALL ON MEEEEEEEEEEEEE CALL ON ME

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[identity profile] maeda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
People probably beat me to it, but... this is a repeat.

Re: 11 AND 32

[identity profile] atelierlune.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Why yes, yes I am.

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