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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-29 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2400 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2400 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Silmarillion]


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[Fire Emblem: Awakening]


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[Almost Human]


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[Gundam Wing and True Blood]


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[NCIS: LA]


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[Final Fantasy VII Compilation]


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[Tom Hiddleston/Loki]


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[Scott & Bailey]


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[Pokemon, Mondo/Domino]


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[Merlin]


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[Chris Colfer]


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[Danny Phantom]


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[Twin Peaks]














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tabaqui: (Default)

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-07-30 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get how people can have so little empathy. Where is this hate coming from? What's the 'big deal', so to speak?

Russia as a whole doesn't strike me as extremely religious, so why so much hate for LGBT people? It's baffling.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I am guessing it is the propaganda machine that the government is running so well over there. LGBT people are the latest scapegoat in a long line of scapegoats that included Jews and Romani. You know how in the US you have Right Wingers blaming homosexuals for the latest hurricane? Saying God sent it out of wrath of the "gay agenda." Only everyone but a fringe group rolls their eyes at such a ridiculous notion. In Russia, they believe that. It's the opposite. Even if they aren't religious, they believe such rumors are true.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-07-30 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
That is...mind boggling.

How are people that ignorant?

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
lol. Let me tell you a story. My father's family are Jews and they are from Russia. Back in the 50's, they told my father he couldn't learn English, because he "didn't have the tongue for it." So they made him learn German instead. He speaks English now, and doesn't remember a word of German.

Russia is a pretty horrible place. My grandparents had to pretend they were just going on vacation to flee the country. That's how bad it is. They're obsessed with being 'Russian', and nothing else. So if you're a religion other than Catholic, or are homosexual, or a feminist, or liberal, etc, you're called a "Western Sinner" and they don't want you around.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-07-30 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm boggled and saddened. Bah.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
A woman was arrested recently in Russia for being an outspoken Feminist. You can also get jailed if you speak English in public. It's pretty crazy

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
You probably shouldn't listen to anonymous people on the internet telling you the an entire population of a foreign country is evil, racist and murderous.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
You're being purposefully ignorant of the climate there, for whatever reason. There have been a large surge into anti-gay attacks in Russia lately. A man was sodomized with beer bottles and had his head crushed under a rock for coming out. A woman was attacked in a gay bar and had glass thrown into her eyes. A group of protestors who were only ~kissing~ were violently assaulted by a large crowd. These things weren't made up by the meany anons, they are actually happening. And it's disgusting that you're purposefully ignoring it to be a whiteknight.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
There's homophobia in every country int he world. That doesn't mean that Russians as a whole are an evil, racist nation. Are you stupid, or just blinded by your own racism?
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-30 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
hmmm. For me personally, I'm taking all the "Russia sucks" sentiment to mean "the Russian government and dominant cultural attitude sucks", which I can get behind 100%. I don't think anyone here actually hates all Russians or thinks they are all horrible people.
Edited 2013-07-30 16:34 (UTC)

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's Russia. They actually don't give a flip as a whole society."

How else am I supposed to read it if not that Russians are all terrible people?
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-30 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"As a society" doesn't actually mean "every single person". It speaks of a majority.

I'm sure there are plenty of people in Russia who care about things like this and speak out. But I think if a large segment of the population is apathetic, that's worth pointing out as something that ought to be remedied.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"As a whole society". Whole. All of it.

The generalisations thrown around by than anon, as well as their judgemental tone when they speak of Russians, sounds horribly racist. I'm not even Russian, but I've seen this type of comments. In fact, it's the same thing I hear from some antisemites, who hide their prejudice under the pretense of caring for the rights of the Palestinians, even when they openly express hatred for Muslims other occasions. I'm shocked to hear the same tone coming from a Jewish person.

Plus, what right does a foreigner have to talk about another nations this way, when the murder and persecution of LGBT people is present in their own country as well? I'm not saying that Russia doesn't have very big problems it needs to address. But using expressions like "it's a horrible place" and "Russians don't give a flip" is awful, as is comparing Russia to America and implying that America has a superior culture.

"They're obsessed with being Russians" is especially funny, because it's the exact same thing my friend said about Americans, when she came back from her trip to the US, where she was attacked by two different people for not singing the US anthem at a baseball match. Americans should really get off their high horse and sort the mess on their own backyard before comparing themselves to a dictatorship with no freedom of speech and declaring themselves culturally superior to it.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
sa

One more thing: I'm surprised by your shock and horror at the fact that there's no public outcry against the violation of the rights of minorities in Russia. You're a person from a country where the majority doesn't have to fear for their own rights and can therefore fight for the rights of the minority without risking anything. It's a luxury that majorities in countries where their rights are systematically violated can't really be expected to afford.

Should an average Russian actively persecute minorities? No.

But is it his moral obligation to protest against such persecution, when he knows that such a protest will likely end up with him getting arrested or even murdered? I don't think it's our place to judge that.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You aren't even Russian. Have you ever been to Russia? Because half my family was born and raised there for generations. "Russian" isn't actually a race, either, so saying I'm racist is extremely amusing. Do you know what that word even means?

"They're obsessed with being Russian"=What the conservative base there has decided what being Russian *IS*, despite what the people there actually ARE. Not everyone there is straight, cis-gendered, and only speaks in Russian. Also, not coming out to condemn something=/=joining in on the brutality.

Perhaps you should whiteknight over something you actually have knowledge of, because you can whine and stamp your feet all you like, but that doesn't erase the FIRST HAND EXPERIENCES I have. Kindly go take your silly SJW bullshit and spin.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
You can't whiteknight Russia when the government, itself, has made homosexuality an offence that you can arrested for. Yes, there is gay bashing in other countries like in the US but how many have laws built around gay bashing?

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-31 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
The government is undemocratic. You can't blame the Russian society for that.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-07-30 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I don't think the entire population is anything, but even though the news we get here is watered down and mostly useless, I haven't seen any real public outcry, either. It's just depressing that Putin's doing this and it seems like no one is opposing him.

If they are, i wish *that* would get reported. All i'm seeing is 'LGBT people/families are trying to escape, here's how to get asylum'.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It may have something to do with the fact that Russia lacks freedom of speech.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
The dominant religion in Russia isn't Catholicism. You're clearly ignorant about the country and just spreading hate.

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
My father's entire family is from Russia and considered a minority there. Try to troll harder!

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
And yet you're still so ignorant, that you don't know what the dominant religion there is. You know Russia based on anegdotal stories from over half a century ago and a couple of news articles on the internet. I could say the same thing about Americans as you say about the Russians based on the same "evidence".

By the way, are you aware that Russia is not a free country? ANd not because "they" don't wish it to be so?

OhmahgerdUgaizRussiaIsn'tMeanYoumeanies;-;

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/massresistance-kissing-provoked-violent-anti-gay-attack-moscow

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2012/10/12/russians-injured-attack-moscow-gay-club/ZQb8U3YKRcpDFVnZHrXz9K/story.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/13/us-russia-gay-idUSBRE94C0AX20130513

Oh. WOOPS.

Re: OhmahgerdUgaizRussiaIsn'tMeanYoumeanies;-;

(Anonymous) 2013-07-30 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
Should I find for you the same kind of articles about the US as a proof tht Americans are a racist, homophobic and woman-hating nation as a whole and it's in their culture? Because I can find them quite easily.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: gay teenagers tortured and made to come out on video as paedophiles

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-31 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, I am curious as to why you think Catholicism is the dominant religion. I kind of skimmed that part before, since I couldn't remember, but I did a little quick research, and it seems to be Russian Orthodoxy. Is that not correct?