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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-05 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2407 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2407 ⌋

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Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the wank is over the fact that he's white, a guy, and not gay or trans*. Which is just...lol.

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Wow yeah given that they were teasing the new Doctor could actually have been someone other than a white straight dude, I'm totally lmfao at the fact people are upset.

:|

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Was anyone who was actually in a position to know or decide actually teasing that?

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Steven Moffat did, just before the big reveal, saying Helen Mirren had expressed interest in the role and that "it's time the Queen should be played by a man", or something like that. The host of the special also did, when Matt Smith said in his interview that "he" was the best choice, she said "that could be awkward if it's a woman, you never know, it might happen".

I didn't think it could happen anyway but they didn't need to rub it in.

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Well that's just an asshole move then.

God, fucking Moffat.
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Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

[personal profile] scherrymouse 2013-08-06 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there was the whole live show where they revealed it, and all the publicity leading up to it. They talked about the possibility of a female Doctor, said 'man or woman' and things like that, and just rambled on and on about how the next Doctor should be different and not a safe choice.

So yes, lots of people who were either in the position to decide the choice or else simply knew it beforehand did tease.

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Also, between River and the Corsair, we do have main-canon precedents for Time Lords regenerating in a different sex/gender or race, so.

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Only tinhatters thought the Doctor would be anyone other than a white man so I've been having a lot of fun laughing at them since the announcement. The show is in enough trouble as it is with Moffat's crappy handling and Matt Smith's pitiful performance. Cast a woman or POC and only the small percentage of viewers who wanted that to begin with will tune in. Especially because casting a POC would retcon 50 years of canon since the Time Lords as a race exclusively resemble whites of European descent.

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
lol

^ BNP ANON CAME BACK D8

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that the viewing figures would have been hit as badly as some had suggested if they'd cast a bloke who wasn't White, as long as he could do the right sort of British male eccentricity. If they'd cast a woman though, my guess is that there'd be an initial flurry of interest at the start of the run (people tuning in for the novelty factor) followed by a drop in viewing figures (as those for whom it was too much of a departure drift away); though they could bounce if the people drawn by the novelty factor decided to stick around.

If they do opt for a woman next time round it would probably be a gamble: with the potential benefit of a new direction being weighed against the risk that the shown might have to be retired or put on hiatus if things didn't pan out (switching back to a male Doctor probably wouldn't lead to a recovery in 'brand loyalty'). However, if there are signs that the current formulae is wearing thin then they may not have much to lose by trying something different.

Re: People hating on the 12th Doctor without seeing him in action...grow up!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-06 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
It was shitty of Moffat to do that but did anyone actually think it was going to happen? It's Moffat! And they admitted to some of the people they considered and it was nothing but white dudes. They're not going to cast anyone else anytime soon and anyone with half a brain knows that.