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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-07 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2409 ]


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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-08-08 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the first movie was called Thor, and its inaccuracies (as far as I know, having been very into mythology as a girl but not growing up listening to them) are at least partially due to the movie being based off comic books rather than the mythology that inspired the comics.

How do you pronounce Mjolner (or make a slash-O), Loke, Odin, and Aesir? I mean, having grown up only hearing and producing a certain number of vowels will severely limit my ability to replicate your pronunciation, but if I can learn five different inflections of every vowel in Mandarin, I can probably cram a few more in there. (I think there's a Norwegian game where natives try to make tourists pronounce "red pudding with bread," which is supposed to be impossible to do if you didn't start learning the language from birth, or at least before the age of 8.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-08 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on the language. All of the Scandinavian languages have diverged from the original Norse pronunciation, so it's different in Norwegian, Swedish, Icelandic, etc. But in Old Norse:

[ˈmjɔlnir] "o" like in British English "four", "i" like in "me", but short.
[ˈloki] "o" like the Scottish English "no", same "i" as in Mjolnir.
[ˈoːðinː] Scottish "o" again, but long. The "d" is like the "th" in "father". Same "i" as above. The n is geminate (doubled length, like in Finnish words).
[ˈæːsir] (Icelandic dialect: with an "a" like in "apple", but long) or [ˈɛːsir] (other dialects: with an "e" like in "dress", but long).

And I think you're talking about "rød grød med fløde" (red berries with cream), which is Danish. You can totally learn to say it after childhood; you just need practice and a bit of knowledge about phonology.

As for the Norwegian ø, it's said sort of like the "u" in "nurse", but in the front of your mouth. Norwegian also has a pitch accent, which is less complicated than the Mandarin tones, but still scary for English-speakers like me. Maybe a Norwegian will come back and help you out here.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-09 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
That's the Danes and 'rødgrød med fløde' (a kind of summer berry pudding with cream). As a Brit living in Denmark, it was pretty much the first thing I learned how to say in Danish since I was always being asked to say it :p