[ SECRET POST #2409 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2409 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's what I want to know. Silent fade-away or "sorry guys, I'm out" and just leaving is one thing, and good on the OP if that's what they feel like doing, but a pseuicide?

Harsh. There are probably a lot of people who will be devastated to hear that :(

[mireia]

Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about. Pseuicide can be very hurtful.

[thene]

Yeah this. In 2003, there was a pseuicide in a close-knit gaming chat site I was a moderator on. It was so hurtful and confusing I've never really been able to talk about what happened and it's affected everything I've done on the internet since. I seriously don't comprehend how anyone can be cold-blooded enough to do it. It's emotional brutality and it's non-consensual as all hell.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, because it's all about you and how you feel when someone else commits pseuicide. It has nothing to do with what they're feeling and experience that leads to them doing it, it's just about how you feel when they do.

People like you are exactly why I don't feel bad about my own pseuicide. It's been 2 years and the feelings of joy and freedom that I felt the moment I did it haven't faded one bit. I love my new online persona because I've been careful not to let any emotional leeches or narcissists like you latch onto me.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, actually it is all about the people someone who commits pseuicide leaves behind. This is not like suicide where someone was too damaged to go on - this is where someone chose between option A) quiet fade out and option B) pseuicide, one of which takes more effort than the other and does more damage and went the extra mile just to make sure people were hurt.

Just the act of pretending you died as opposed to disappearing without notice makes it about the people you leave behind.

[(Anonymous)]

na This makes sense to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Quiet fade out seems to me that it would take time and if the person is suffering because of the people they're connected to online, that's not a good option. It might not even be an option. Online interactions and friendships can have the same effect on someone as RL interactions and friendships. Unhealthy ones can drive a person to suicide. For someone to choose pseuicide over suicide is always a good thing, IMHO.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh please. Delete account, end of story. Pretending that you're dead is a lot more work than that. Some people just need to get off on others being devastated over their death.

[(Anonymous)]

Why would just not logging in any more take time, ffs? Setting up a "I'm gonna kill myself" is way more time, and pre-meditated desire to hurt. Or are we disagreeing about the meaning of "pseuicide"?

[(Anonymous)]

Because you can't whore attention off disappearing without a word.



You're stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

You're a horrible human being. I hope you step on a lego in the dark.

[(Anonymous)]

I love this 'i hope'. Yep. they deserve it. TWO legos.

[thene]

Gosh, you're precious. I never realised that only ~*~emotional leeches and narcissists~*~ found bereavement incredibly upsetting. How many people did you hurt, anon? How much did you enjoy basking in other people's grief? Just quietly moving to a new online persona isn't good enough, I guess. Someone else has to suffer to bring you ~*~joy and freedom~*~ if you're a sadistic fuck.

[(Anonymous)]

lol @ "people who give a shit about you being alive" being "emotional leeches"

You sound like a horrible person, and while I'm sure people were devastated at your 'death', they're better off without you.

[(Anonymous)]

Have you ever experienced real suicide?
My best friend committed suicide three years ago and then my partner did. Both suffered from severe cases of depression.
Be glad that you KNOW it was only a fake. Fakes can actually help and might prevent people from actually killing themselves.

Grieving about someone dying isn't the same as BEING DEAD because people are still dismissing depression as being overemotional or shit like that and only few people get actual help. The real victim is the dead person and I hate it when people make them the selfish antagonists.

[(Anonymous)]

Suicidal people are sick and need help. But I disagree with you about the people left behind never being victims. Like my friend who found his dad after he comitted suicide. He was eight, and that left scars.

[thene]

I'm very sorry for your loss. However, I feel this comment is misdirected, because the lack of support for depressed people is a chronic problem that has nothing to do with the anger people in fandom feel about pseuicide, and there's zero evidence that pseuicide and actual depression or suicidal feelings are related to each other.

Fakes can actually help and might prevent people from actually killing themselves.

I'm not sure why you'd think that? How on earth could it help? 'Pseuicide' doesn't refer to faking a suicide but simply to pretending to be dead on the internet. The death of someone close to you is (I doubt this will surprise you) top of the list of life stressors that can induce depression and precipitate actual suicide, and on top of that damage there's the loss of trust once people find out they got faked. I'm not sure what hypothetical benefits you're saying would outweigh all this known harm and social destruction.

I'm glad I know my 'friend' wasn't really dead, yes. I'm also glad to have simultaneously discovered that he was never really my friend. I don't think he was depressed in the least; he showed no signs of depression but many, many signs of egomania. Pseuicide is not a phenomena that's been subject to much study AFAIK but you might find this article on Munchausens-Via-Internet interesting, as the two often go together.