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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-11 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2413 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2413 ⌋

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[personal profile] pts 2013-08-11 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this a thing? I don't think this is a thing.

(Disclosure: I am a white dude.)

I don't think there's anything wrong with a white person cosplaying a character of color. Doing so does not necessarily mean you think that character SHOULD be white. It just means you like that character.

N.B.: Of course when cosplaying a character of color, DO NOT ARTIFICIALLY DARKEN YOUR SKIN. Just... do not do it.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
from what i can tell, this is mostly a fandom/internet thing.

i'm white, and the character i usually dress up as for halloween/costume parties/etc is black. at first, people aren't necessarily sure who i am, because my physical appearance is different than hers, but once they find out they think it's awesome i chose her because she's really cool and should be loved.

would i go to a con like that? hmm, probably not. i feel like some of the more race-conscious (or accuracy-conscious) people might be side-eyeing me for it.

and would i post those pictures on the internet? definitely not. if tumblr SJWs got ahold of it, they'd tear me apart.

so basically, whether or not it's a thing and what it means to people definitely depends on your audience.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
i'm probably being incredibly ignorant on this but... it's a much better cosplay if you match the character's skintone. what's wrong with that?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
DA--If you are not from the US or some parts of the Netherlands you might not have ever encountered this stuff before. There may be other countries with a nasty history and/or present of white people painting themselves up like caricatures of black people, but I don't know any. In America, blackface was something that happened at minstrel shows, where white people dressed and acted like horrible racist stereotypes of black people for other white peoples' entertainment. In the Netherlands 'Black Pete' is their version of Santa's little helper--a white person dressed up as a black one--as St. Nicholas' slave, who hands out candy. When the very small population of black people there complain about it, they get brushed off because it's harmless fun, or arrested for protesting because they're ruining the fun for the (white) kids. England's got gollywogs, which aren't the same thing but sorta come from the same stereotypes.

Basically, since internet access is so widespread in America, a lot of online spaces follow American social mores, one of which is intense discomfort with white people painting themselves up as minorities, or any people painting themselves to look like another race--at least for people who aren't racist douchebags.

Also, I'm white so I don't know if I get this exactly, but in fandom there's a sense that compared to white people, pretty much everybody else has many fewer characters to chose from if they want to do an accurate cosplay as far as skin tone goes. So when white people dress up like non-white characters it can feel like white people taking one more character that, for once, they thought was theirs. Sort of, but not exactly, like an able-bodied person cosplaying someone in a wheelchair (ie Barbara Gordon/Batgirl), or a skinny person dressing in a fat suit (ie Gweneth Paltrow in Shallow Hal, where the comedy is that the main character doesn't know he's dating a fat woman, ew!) So white, able-bodied, fit people have to expend a lot less effort to find characters to believably cosplay than black, fat, or disabled people will.