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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-11 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2413 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2413 ⌋

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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-08-12 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I can live with both. Sometimes it's nice to read an uncomplicated romance story that doesn't bring up the sticky issues of bigotry. Sometimes it's interesting to read a fic where bigotry issues do come up.

The part I would really nitpick on is whether the bigotry or lack there-of is appropriate.
To use your example:

I really don't think homophobia would fit into Star Trek. As you say, utopian future. There may be grounds for playing with racism issues, since Nu!Trek shows that the Vulcans looked down on him for being half-human.

On the other hand, TNG had plenty of plots about alien racism and alien homophobia issues. If done right, such plots could work.

A 21st century setting has lots of room for bigotry, because Real Life has lots of bigotry.

I sometimes wish some medieval-type settings had fanfic that mentioned ingrained bigotry more, because it's unrealistic to have societies like that - even in fantasy worlds - be totally unprejudiced.

Example: I could really see Gondor having institutionalized homophobia. I can also see Hobbits having institutionalized homophobia, partly because they value family and would probably judge people on how well they breed.
I am willing to handwave the issue with Dwarves, because they canonically have a ridiculous gender imbalance and I don't really believe that all of the two thirds of Dwarven men who don't marry a Dwarven woman would really be content to bury themselves in their chosen craft (though I do allow for a good portion of them doing so.

I love fics that play with cultural differences between Middle Earth races. If those cultural differences are homosexuality issues, then it probably guarantees the fic is a romance where one of the characters has to get over that ingrained prejudice before he can accept the relationship.

So, TL;DR, fics that don't bring up bigotry are fluffy things that are fun to read when you don't want to read fics about bigotry. Fics about bigotry can be good reading too, and I like when people input bigotry into a sci-fi/fantasy culture in a believable way.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-17 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I read the secret and thought that they meant bigotry as in 'racism' because of the interspecies thing, and then I saw all the comments about homophobia and was like 'whut?' I'm with you on that, it doesn't really seem to fit into Star Trek's setting, unless the Enterprise crew were on a primitive planet or were dealing with some sort of anti-technology, return-to-our-roots crazy cult or something.

Also, I absolutely love LotR/Hobbit fics that deal with the cultural/social differences between the different Middle Earth races.

TL;DR - +1 You have summed up everything I wanted to say about this secret. Also you are awesome and have good taste in fic.