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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-12 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2414 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2414 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Akumu-chan / My Little Nightmare]


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03.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation/Deanna Troi]


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04.
[The Borgias]


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05.
[Kaiba Seto and Jounouchi Katsuya from Yu-gi-oh!]


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06.
[Spring Breakers]


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07.
[Murder Rooms]


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[Twin Peaks]


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09.
[Mass Effect]


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10.
[Despicable Me 2]


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[Ice Age]


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12.
[Arrested Development]


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13.
[Super Junior]


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14.
[Halloween]


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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

[personal profile] scrubber 2013-08-12 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
While the Riddler maybe would've survived intact, Poison Ivy would've barely been herself. She's just too over the top for Nolan!verse. She would've been like, a regular woman who was an evil botanist at worst. She probably would've been dying of some disease she gave herself while screwing with plants. Does that sound that great to you?

...Obviously, this is all speculation. But in my opinion Poison Ivy is kind of an inherently ridiculous character, so she probably would've been super neutered in Nolan!verse to the point of pointlessness. The Riddler could have survived as a mad genius type, which can be done "seriously" enough. Poison Ivy? Not so much.

Even Harley could've plausibly been an evil doctor or something. There would be no point, but she'd be there.

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR, is what I'm saying.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
And just think of his take on Mr. Freeze.
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

[personal profile] scrubber 2013-08-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Some kind of mad refrigerator mechanic.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
...who only fixes fridges for the mafia.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, does anyone remember that creepy scene in Batman Forever just after Edward Nigma kills his boss, and he has just had his mental breakdown and wants to take it all out on Bruce Wayne? And, really menacingly, he says...

"Well, let me ask you some questions, Mr. Smarter Than Thou. Why are you
so debonair? Successful? Richer than God? Why should you have it all and not me? Yes, you're right, there are too many questions, Bruce Wayne. Like why hasn't anybody put you in your place?


That is how I imagine a Nolan!Riddler could have been...a mix between creepy-as-fuck mastermind and a mentally-unstable criminal obsessed with questions and riddles.

(Then Jim Carey dons the costume and turns into...well...Jim Carey. Sigh. Such a missed opportunity.)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with what you're saying about Poison Ivy but I actually think that applies to Riddler as well, and the Joker, and well almost all Batman villains.

I just do not like what Nolan did to the Batverse, the whole point of Batman villains is that they are over the top looney. Nolan's versions aren't even close to what they should be.
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

[personal profile] scrubber 2013-08-13 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
I guess YMMV because I still think she's a bit sillier than the rest. Maybe it's the green skin. A "crazy clown" villain feels like it could show up in either adults or kids stuff? A "sexy evil plant lady" feel like it's from a kids show only.

Nolan's versions aren't even close to what they should be.

I'm sure that's true. But I think the Joker manages to retain his essence somehow, and lo and behold, he's the most memorable and likable villain in the movies. The other villains, yeah your probably right.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2013-08-13 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Not necessarily. She could still be considered a bio-terrorist with heavy environmental leanings, very Green Peace like, just without her powers.
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

[personal profile] scrubber 2013-08-13 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose. I didn't consider that angle. That probably would've been more likely. I still think "eeeeeeevil environmental terrorist" is really silly though. Almost like a joke? If she's reduced down to a crazy hippie then don't put her in the movie man.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-08-13 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. While I think Ivy losing her plant powers would be too big a deal for me to want to see her in the Nolanverse, an eco-terrorist who uses seduction and plant-based drugs and poisons to manipulate and kill people would be perfectly fine in the Nolanverse. Even if she had some compound that makes people completely pliable without altering their behavior other than the way she tells them to alter it, that wouldn't be any more out there than Ra's's microwave gun.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if you've seen it/you're aware of it, but there's a project up on Youtube called The Joker Blogs. It's a continuation of The Dark Knight, following the Joker's imprisonment in Arkham, and it's also a well-built origin story for Harley and a number of other comic-book villains (Lockup, Killer Croc, I think... it's been a while). It's marvelously in-character, too.