[ SECRET POST #2414 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2414 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Akumu-chan / My Little Nightmare]


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03.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation/Deanna Troi]


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04.
[The Borgias]


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05.
[Kaiba Seto and Jounouchi Katsuya from Yu-gi-oh!]


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06.
[Spring Breakers]


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07.
[Murder Rooms]


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08.
[Twin Peaks]


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09.
[Mass Effect]


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10.
[Despicable Me 2]


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11.
[Ice Age]


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12.
[Arrested Development]


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13.
[Super Junior]


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14.
[Halloween]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 064 secrets from Secret Submission Post #345.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

01. http://i45.tinypic.com/2nks0ts.jpg

[electromouse]

Mh I feel like they would have been better villains for a second movie, but not for a third.

...And now that I think about it, I can't remember who was the villain for the first or second or whatever outside the Joker.

[(Anonymous)]

Scarecrow and Ra's again.

[(Anonymous)]

Two-Face was in the second movie (the one with the Joker).

[(Anonymous)]

1st: Scarecrow, Ra's al Ghul
2nd: Joker, some Two-Face
3rd: Bane, Talia

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I was underwhelmed with Nolan 1 and 3.

Thank you all!

[electromouse]

I'll end up re-watching the movies because, plot-wise, I'm pulling a huge blank here.

[dethtoll]

To be perfectly honest I've always been bored by Ra's as a Batman villain. He always struck me as just another boring Evil Mastermind bent on world domination, and is very thematically out of place compared to villains like Joker or Ivy. Even Bane was a more compelling villain in Knightfall, an oversized tyrant who mistakes being a legend and a hero for kingship.

The only time Ra's ever truly lived up to the threat he supposedly posed was the Tower of Babel arc in JLA, where he takes advantage of Batman's paranoia to steal dossiers on the other League members and Batman's plans for taking them down if they ever went bad. Other than that he's been largely uninteresting. Even Darkseid made a big comeback to form with Final Crisis after like 20 years of being a doofy rock-lookin' dude. Ra's has never quite been able to top Tower of Babel.

[(Anonymous)]

One of my main problems with Ra's is that he always has the Pit at his disposal, so it's hard to really give a damn about him, his plans, or when he goes up against Batman, because he'll always be able to reset himself by going back into the Pit. It just makes for an incredibly boring character (plus he isn't all that interesting to begin with IMO. Though neither is Talia.)

[scrubber]

While the Riddler maybe would've survived intact, Poison Ivy would've barely been herself. She's just too over the top for Nolan!verse. She would've been like, a regular woman who was an evil botanist at worst. She probably would've been dying of some disease she gave herself while screwing with plants. Does that sound that great to you?

...Obviously, this is all speculation. But in my opinion Poison Ivy is kind of an inherently ridiculous character, so she probably would've been super neutered in Nolan!verse to the point of pointlessness. The Riddler could have survived as a mad genius type, which can be done "seriously" enough. Poison Ivy? Not so much.

Even Harley could've plausibly been an evil doctor or something. There would be no point, but she'd be there.

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR, is what I'm saying.

[(Anonymous)]

And just think of his take on Mr. Freeze.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man, does anyone remember that creepy scene in Batman Forever just after Edward Nigma kills his boss, and he has just had his mental breakdown and wants to take it all out on Bruce Wayne? And, really menacingly, he says...

"Well, let me ask you some questions, Mr. Smarter Than Thou. Why are you
so debonair? Successful? Richer than God? Why should you have it all and not me? Yes, you're right, there are too many questions, Bruce Wayne. Like why hasn't anybody put you in your place?

That is how I imagine a Nolan!Riddler could have been...a mix between creepy-as-fuck mastermind and a mentally-unstable criminal obsessed with questions and riddles.

(Then Jim Carey dons the costume and turns into...well...Jim Carey. Sigh. Such a missed opportunity.)

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with what you're saying about Poison Ivy but I actually think that applies to Riddler as well, and the Joker, and well almost all Batman villains.

I just do not like what Nolan did to the Batverse, the whole point of Batman villains is that they are over the top looney. Nolan's versions aren't even close to what they should be.

[otakugal15]

Not necessarily. She could still be considered a bio-terrorist with heavy environmental leanings, very Green Peace like, just without her powers.

[kamino_neko]

Eh. While I think Ivy losing her plant powers would be too big a deal for me to want to see her in the Nolanverse, an eco-terrorist who uses seduction and plant-based drugs and poisons to manipulate and kill people would be perfectly fine in the Nolanverse. Even if she had some compound that makes people completely pliable without altering their behavior other than the way she tells them to alter it, that wouldn't be any more out there than Ra's's microwave gun.

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is The Riddler and Poison Ivy from the "Batman" comics. The Riddler is a man with light skin wearing a green suit, a green bowler hat, a light green tie, green gloves and a purple shirt. He is carrying a cane with the interrogation mark on top. He is leaning on one foot, charismatically and smugly inclining his head and touching his hat with a hand, with a dartboard behind him with some darts stuck to it. Poison Ivy is a woman with light green skin, curly very bight orange-red hair reaching almost half her back and with leafy vines wrapped around her neck, part of her breasts, her wrists, her waist, her thighs, her ankles and her feet. She is sitting on a bed? with various blue and orange-yellow cushions lying around. There is a suitcase open next to her, with several stacks of green money bills spilling out of it. The whole room is invaded by leafy vines. She looks smug as she's handling some of the money.]

While I think Christopher Nolan did a good job with the new Batman trilogy, I will forever be disappointed by his choice of villains - except for the Joker. It makes me sad we will never get to see his versions of the Riddler or Poison Ivy. Because I think they would have been way more awesome than Bane or Ra's al Gul.

[pantasma]

When I heard Bane was going to be in the third movie, I was so looking forward to meeting Poison Ivy. I've always associated the two after "Batman & Robin" from 1997. I haven't read the comics, so I don't know if they just threw them together for that movie or if they have a similar relationship between medias, but it was still disappointing.

[cloud_riven]

I'd be interested in his take on Poison Ivy, how'd he normalify it into his version of batverse. It would probably disappoint me though.

[elaminator]

Ugh, Ra's al Ghul. Between what I've read of the comics and his inclusion in Arkham City I despise him. (FUCK THE DEMON TRIALS. FUCK THEM FOREVER.)

I liked the Nolanverse Ra's better but I think that's largely because of Liam Neeson. I love me some Neeson...

And I liked Tom Hardy as Bane but I'm underwhelmed by the character in the comics. Haven't read Knightfall yet though, so maybe that would change things.

So yea, I guess I kind of agree that Riddler and Ivy would've been more exciting choices, I'm just not sure if they would've fit into the Nolanverse.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, this was a guy who emphatically stated that the fucking Penguin was too unrealistic to adapt to his work. I wouldn't have trusted his take on either of these two, were he to even deign them worthy enough of being used.

[rbhudson]

I'm still bitter about 2 Face, he's my favorite :(

[(Anonymous)]

I find myself wishing he had taken some of Batman's more outlandish villains and deconstructed the shit out of them, with their powers and all. But then again I am terribly attached to deconstruction as a genre; I just know that the Riddler would have been in for a good old fashioned mindfuck and Poison Ivy would have been cool.

This is a universe where, theoretically I guess, Superman exists too, y'know. So I don't see why we can't have powers.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but they might make people remember the Schumacher movies. Who wants to inflict PTSD flashbacks like that on your audience?

[(Anonymous)]

Except for the part where Nolan is hardly able to write women, SRSLY THO. OMG THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO AWESOME.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been saying this ever since the trilogy ended. I just want to see a decently portrayed Poison Ivy on the screen, tbh.