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⌈ Secret Post #2414 ⌋

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[Akumu-chan / My Little Nightmare]

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation/Deanna Troi]

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[The Borgias]

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[Kaiba Seto and Jounouchi Katsuya from Yu-gi-oh!]

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[Spring Breakers]

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[Murder Rooms]

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[Twin Peaks]

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[Mass Effect]

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[Despicable Me 2]

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[Ice Age]

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[Arrested Development]

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[Super Junior]

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[Halloween]

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I think the funding of sports is a pox on the school system, not the sports themselves. I was on several sports teams in high school, as well as part of the chess/biology/debate/robotics club - and guess which got the most external and internal support? Aaauuuugggh.

The problem is the sports actually make the school money. Biology club is a drain.

In high school? At least, my high school? No, they didn't. They cost the school money, same as any other club.

College football? Sure. But there were no ticket sales or corporate sponsorships for the high school rowing regattas or wrestling team.

Some highschools charge for games and/or concessions or have charity drives based on the sports team. I imagine there's a lot less consistent gain in high school, but some schools do make something directly or indirectly from their teams.

Not mine, and they still gave the sports teams more funding. It's cultural, and having seen both sides of it, damned if dethtoll doesn't have a point.

I don't know if that is true. To the extent that it is true, it is very, very complicated - at least at the college level, it is actually really difficult to get an accurate picture of what the economic situation of sports programs actually is (it tends to be the case that, when they want to defend the existence of sports programs, colleges will claim that they are making lots of money for the school, and when they want to argue that paying athletes would destroy college athletics, they will claim that college athletics is a massive money pit, and they can do this because accounting).

However, on the whole, I don't think that college athletics at most schools contributes in a meaningful way to the financing of the academic side of college athletics. I think, at best, college athletics contributes to the financing of college athletics and athletic departments, which, if they bring in a lot of costs, also tend to cost a ton of money. this tends to be more and more true the more and more lucrative a program is - the really successful NCAAF programs (and let's be honest, if we're talking about college athletics and money, we're talking about football) are also the ones that pay coaches and ADs exorbitant 7 figure salaries and have insanely luxurious training facilities etc. The economics of college athletics also tend to be affected by the tendency for athletics departments to spend in wildly unnecessary ways because they are non-profits and don't have to worry about profit or about making a return for the school.

College athletics programs do have some real positive effects - they do tend to increase donations (although often said donations are going to be focused around athletics, so it's not as great as you might think academically), and they do have very real PR benefits - applications and enrollments tend to increase dramatically when NCAAF and NCAAB teams do well (although that conversation leads into a broader conversation about college economics which is probably not really germane here). I think if you want to talk about college sports benefiting the schools, it's not going to be in direct financial terms, it's more going to be stuff like that.

But I think the real reason so much emphasis is placed on this stuff doesn't have much to do with those factors, and even less to do with any putative financial benefits - because the support for college football and basketball is out of line with any of those things, and because it's completely possible to run an academically elite university without any sports teams at all. It happens because people really, really, really like college football and basketball. Especially alumni, administrators, students, and fans. You can't tell me that the existence and behavior of Alabama and Auburn football, or Indiana basketball, is governed entirely by the academic interests of the institutions involved.

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