[ SECRET POST #2419 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Notes:

Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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Comments

[mekkio]

Simple, because it's insulting and annoying to be called "homophobic" if we don't agree with someone's ship. Because we don't like to see the writers and actors harassed about such and such ship because we are afraid those same writers and actors are going to go all radio silent on the rest of the fandom because of it. Because we want to have a conversation, one conversation that doesn't revolve around shipping. It's not a romantic show. It's a horror-drama. Can we please talk about the horror aspect for a change?

[aubry]

I see what you're saying. But it strikes me that most of that's really more about certain shippers doing human-interaction wrong, rather than evidence that being focused on shipping is doing TV-watching wrong.

I guess I'm interested in knowing whether people have qualms about watching a show primarily for the sake of a ship. Where love of the story-telling, or genre, or other characters is a factor, but is secondary to the shipping. Because I think a lot of fen have shows where shipping is the main enjoyment for them, and that's always been the case.

[luxshine]

I'll never get the mania that some people have to accuse non-shippers of being homophobic just for being non shippers.

If you tell me that you don't ship A/B, I'll gladly assume that you don't ship A/B and that's it. If you tell me I'm a sick pervert for shipping A/B and that A/B is an abomination... then I'll call you homophobic. But I don't understand the automatic jump to 'you probably hate gay people if you don't ship what I do'.

That said, I still hate that any group of shippers is accused of not wanting to talk about anything but shipping. Because I think it is part of the fun too. Sometimes we talk about the horror, sometimes we talk about the shipping, and I don't see why that is so 'wrong' or 'delusional'.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I'll never get the mania that some people have to accuse non-shippers of being homophobic just for being non shippers.

Oh yes. Shipping subtext no matter how juicy and ripe with fanservice isn't more important to me than the promotion of openly queer writers and artists engaged in the production of openly queer works with openly queer characters.

[luxshine]

Exactly! I mean, I ship them, and I'd love if Dean was openly bisexual not because it's Dean, but because I think we need more openly bisexual characters, but I'm not going to start campaings to force my head-canon into other fans. If you don't see it, you don't see it and that's it. Wasn't that the whole point of headcanons?

The only time in which I honestly hate anti-shippers is when they go to a specific shipper-space and start criticizing shippers. Then, I might call them homophobic trolls.