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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-10-07 04:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #275 ]


⌈ Secret Post #275 ⌋

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[identity profile] linkeepsitreal.livejournal.com 2007-10-07 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I had to post, delete and revise this to be a little more polite because this comment honestly pissed me off *so* bad. I'm not trying to flame, I'm just trying to express why this really offended me.

One: Tsubasa has it's faults, no question. The ANIME is terrible and childish and weak and all those things. The MANGA is not. It has its problems too, its areas where it's clumsily-told, but it (especially the later half) is not childish, and there *is* character development. It's not the best series ever made but it's not terrible.

However, this part of your "secret" is not what pisses me off. It's THIS:

i also feel kurofai is pathetic... crazy yaoi fangirls...

Ok, one, why the insults? Why do you feel the need to insult everyone who likes this pairing and call them crazy and pathetic? You don't even like the show. You don't have any idea about this pairing in the manga, where it is very developed and, SURPRISE, pretty much 80% of the fandom considers it canon at this point. That's right, as in, manga-wise, it is pretty much canon right now. LOTS of things happen between them that don't happen in the anime.

Really, though, what insults me as a Kurofai fan? Not that you're calling me pathetic without actually doing any research about the pairing? It's the "crazy yaoi fangirls."

Hi, my name's Lindsay.

I like KuroFai. I consider it canon in the manga.

I am NOT A YAOI FAN.

Furthermore, gay pairings are not all in yaoi fans' heads, if that's what you mean by calling us crazy. Clamp does lots of non-straight pairings so it's not out of left-field to think KuroFai could be one too. Seriously, I find it incredibly rude of you to just go and call all of of pathetic and crazy (and to assume we're all delusional yaoi fans!) when you've apparently only seen the anime.

And even if it WAS fan-made, why is it pathetic to simply like a pairing? Sorry, but I find this secret incredibly judgemental. Get over yourself.

But I'll help you, as you asked:

Don't like it, don't watch it. I doubt your friends will disown you because you don't like an anime show. Grow a backbone and just don't bother with it if you find it so pathetic and beneath you.

I'm really sorry for ranting a little but this comment just really touched a nerve. Not all gay pairings are invented by "pathetic, crazy yaoi fans."

Re: 30

[identity profile] buddha-loves-me.livejournal.com 2007-10-07 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn, you took all my arguments and made it sound a whole lot cooler. :P

IAWTC, of course.

Re: 30

[identity profile] ensuing.livejournal.com 2007-10-07 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Not all gay pairings are invented by "pathetic, crazy yaoi fans."

Thank-you! So true. And I don't ship it, but I'd say KuroFai is totally canon.

Re: 30

[identity profile] bodyline.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Have my babies?

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
♥♥♥

Re: 30

[identity profile] animeotaku51.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
IAWTC IAWTC IAWTC!

Can I steal this and show it to someone else? I've been looking for a way to explain this to someone and you said it better than I ever could

Re: 30

[identity profile] linkeepsitreal.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah sure, go ahead~ ^_^

Re: 30

(Anonymous) 2007-10-08 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
IMO. The poster may have been immature in his/her statement, but being annoyed by it like this is just laughable.

It was just a simple sentence. Shrug it off.

Re: 30

[identity profile] zeeofgreeneyes.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not gonna defend myself to you. Everyone has their pet peeves and this is mine. If my comment bugs you so much, ignore it instead of leaving me a condescening anonymous comment. I'm not insulting you personally after all.

Re: 30

(Anonymous) 2007-10-08 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
different anon

If my comment bugs you so much, ignore it instead of leaving me a condescening anonymous comment. I'm not insulting you personally after all.

neither was the OP of the secret and yet your panties are all in a twist.

Re: 30

[identity profile] zeeofgreeneyes.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
*Sigh* Um. I don't want to get into a spat over a stupid secret.

No the OP wasn't addressing me DIRECTLY. But she was insulting me by association, as well as my entire fandom, simply for liking a pairing. It is my pet peeve and I am perfectly allowed to be offended and say so, thank you very much. I'm confronted with this quite a bit and since it's something that affects me directly, of course I will be more passionate about it than someone else would.

Just because it is trivial to you does not mean my feelings on the subject are not valid. And again I don't want to get into a spat, I posted this yesterday and I'm completely over it. I just want to voice my opinions. I'm not forcing people to agree.

Re: 30

(Anonymous) 2007-10-08 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
so you really don't see how hypocritical you're being?

Re: 30

[identity profile] zeeofgreeneyes.livejournal.com 2007-10-09 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, ok, look, maybe I phrased myself poorly when I responded to point one, but when I said, "if you don't like it, ignore it" I was refering to the way I phrased my post, not the content of it, because obviously that's not what I did with secret 30. I addressed it because it annoyed me, I didn't ignore it. I was not referring to ignoring something that offends you.

Ugh, how to put this? I feel like the secret itself was insulting me because it was insulting the fandom, which I am apart of. The anon poster is simply insulting me because she didn't like the way I went about my post, not because of anything I said in it. I would not have a problem if she wanted to tell me "oh, well I disagree about what you said because of this and this." No. She told me "I laugh at you because you're getting worked up", not anything to do with the post or the content.

I realize that I didn't have to make a long post about the secret to begin with. I don't think it's hypocritical in that sense because I did not argue against the poster of 30 simply because she wrote with poor capitalization or because of the form in which she wrote her secret. I argued the content. That's what rubbed me the wrong way with anonymous point one. IF she wants to argue with me about what I said, fine, I accept that, but simply leaving me a comment saying she finds the fact that my post is long and aggressive laughable? A little irking.

PLEASE just drop the subject, I don't want to argue, as I said. If anon poster #1 wants to debate what I SAID she can feel free, but I don't really have time to argue why I felt condescended to for someone (who I can only assume is not a part of the fandom) to tell me my opinion, when voiced a certain way, is "laughable."

Re: 30

[identity profile] zeeofgreeneyes.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry. I know the above comment (to the first anon) is a little rude but I feel like I'm allowed to be passionate about this because it's something that I'm involved in and feel strongly about. I'm sorry if that's laughable to you but it isn't to me, I'm allowed to defend my fandom and myself >_>;