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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-21 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2423 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2423 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Amanda Palmer]


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03.
[Breaking Bad]


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[Free]


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05.
[Urdnot Wrex (Mass Effect)]


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06.
[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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07.
[My Chemical Romance]


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08.
[Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh]


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09.
[Twin Peaks, Audrey Horne and Agent Dale Cooper]


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10.
[Johnny Weir, American figure skater]


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11.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Arrested Development]












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 026 secrets from Secret Submission Post #346.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] fscom 2013-08-21 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-21 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Negging on her for her looks (WTF?) or her music is a non-starter, but some of the criticism is legit. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy and be inspired by her music, OP. I'm glad you were, and I'm glad you kept singing!
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[personal profile] souljelly 2013-08-21 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-21 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
That doesn't mean you can't enjoy and be inspired by her music

Yes, it does. If you are inspired by a sexist ableist shit, then you are being inspired to be a terrible person.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-21 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I still enjoy her music, and as a person with a disability, I think I have every right to decide whether or not I can do that regardless of her problematic attitudes toward people like me, tyvm.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-21 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Rock on, anon!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-21 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
So you get to choose for everyone else? Sounds like you're disability came with a superpower.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
If you are inspired by a sexist ableist shit, then you are being inspired to be a terrible person.

Well, gosh, I think I should burn all my DVDs, because pretty much most people us fans put on a pedestal are pretty problematic. With some inspirational, good stuff too. Most people have sexist and so forth traits, this doesn't make them unredeemable monsters. It's whether it's so overwhelming that the inspirational creative stuff is drowned. Polanski? Ick, no. Palmer? Pretty damn mild in the scheme of things, it's just that she promotes herself as being better than that, so that her faults are played up so much more by those disappointed in her. But compared to most people that fans less controversially claim inspiration from, she really ain't that bad, shiiiit.

What matters is what WE become.
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[personal profile] silverr 2013-08-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
+1
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+1

[personal profile] littlestbirds 2013-08-22 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I try to keep in mind that actions and ideas are problematic, people are complicated.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow , congrats anon...you just called out someone on the horrible crime of enjoying a thing for themselves.

Go forth and feel better about yourself knowing you are clearly the better person. Totally. You've done your good deed by telling someone that they're a horrible person for enjoying music.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
That's not how art works. That's not how... ANYTHING works. Good god, you're an embarrassment.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
most appropriate response

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
lol

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds about right to me; definitely some legit criticisms to be made, but a lot to enjoy as well.

warning for misogyny, sex shaming, and various other triggering insults

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-08-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
warning for misogyny, sex shaming, and various other triggering insults

[Picture is a photo of the musician Amanda Palmer. She has light skin and short dark brown hair. She is wearing something dark and sleeveless in a very bright place outdoors. She is wearing white paint on her face, red lipstick, red blush and painted-on black eyebrows. She is looking to one side and holding up her hair, as someone else's hand holds a red rose to her head. There are bits of text floating around the picture.]

Dresden Dolls exploded when I was in middle school. People say a lot of less-than-flattering things about her.

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Me too. Just go die already, geez. Weirdo. Fuckin' shave, already. Yea, good luck. She a freak, too? Stupid. Bitch. Ugly. Freak. Who'd want you? Girls shouldn't sing that low. What The Fuck Eyebrows?1! FAKE. "Pay in hugs" are you serious? FREAK. Poser. Whore. Slut. You call that music? She deserves to be raped. Her music is so violent. She ruined him.

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Secret: If it wasn't for her, I would have stopped singing. Yea, she's usually pretty fucked up. I still like the music. Genuinely.

Too long; didn't read: She's the reason my hobby is my job. Cue wank.

Secret because: You mention liking anything about her and it's instant wank. Unless it's someone else from "the Following"!1! Especially around here. Can you imagine if it came out that she's the reason I grew up to be a fine musician?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-21 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"Girls shouldn't sing that low."

Seriously? That's an actual criticism people have made of her?

Fuck the assholes who said that.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
It is, for real. They were out when I was in high school, and I heard way too many people say that. It perplexed me, mostly. At that point, I think people were just looking for reasons to trash her on top of any legit reasons for disliking her.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2013-08-23 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
What the actual fuck? Whatever you can criticise AP for (and there's a lot), her voice is awesome!

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-08-21 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"Girls shouldn't sing that low." Wat?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder how many low altos here zeroed in on that part of the secret.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
Galina Baranova: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv4zXfDJlhM#t=40


!!!

(Anonymous) 2013-08-21 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I had never heard of her before, but the "Girl Anachronism" vid was awesome! I want to frame it and keep it! Finally an actual human female on video.

What is the legitimate criticism btw.?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect they're referring to the fact that she tries to get local artists to work for her for hugs while she's on tour, or at least has before. Idk what she's done that's sexist - but a quick google search would probably tell you.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-22 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
or the fact that she trolled and attacked women with disabilities for expressing displeasure with her side-project where she pretended to be half of a pair of conjoined twins who were ~circus freaks~

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