[ SECRET POST #2428 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2428 ⌋

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Comments

[darkmanifest]

A) Then you know a lot of fucked-up people and should perhaps avoid them.

B) What in the world is it with fair-skinned people (not just Caucasian ones, either!) going to such breathless lengths to describe how very pale they are whenever the opportunity arises? Not trying to start shit, I'm genuinely puzzled by this, because I wonder if anyone else notices it or knows why it happens. I've never seen dark-skinned people feel the need to elaborate how astonishingly pitch-black they are. Then again, I run in Western nerd circles, and the melanin is sparse in these parts to begin with. Perhaps that's why?

[(Anonymous)]

Because, believe it or not, there are acceptable levels of whiteness in skin color. Like there's white which most people think slightly tanned from the sun, healthy glow. Think your stereotypical blonde, tanned cheerleader. This is the ideal desired skin color. And then there is the other extreme, the sickly, white as chalk, check her breathing because she might be a corpse pale. This is the skin color that most people try to avoid unless you are a goth. The only ones who can get away with being that pale are gingers. But then again, pasty gingers are often the butt of many jokes.

Yes, white people make fun of other white people's paleness.

[darkmanifest]

Not that, I comprehend people insulting others for being "too pale" (just like I comprehend people insulting those who are "too dark"), what I mean is when people wax indulgent about their own paleness in random hyperbole, like in the secret. Like, "I'm sickly/deathly/super/chalk pale", okay, that's perfectly clear, I get that. But the whole "I'm the whitest white person you've ever seen, goddamn, I'm so white, my whiteness would astound you, whitey white white" thing that I don't get, and it's oddly common.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, that? I don't have a clue. I don't get either.

I don't even know what the measuring stick of "whiteness" is. The first thing that pops in my head is The British Royal Family. But how that fits in the whole, "I'm so white, I'm whitey-whtie" thing with the regular joe, I am not sure. Because for every time a white person has said, "I'm so white, I like such and such," I thought, "Most people regardless of race like that." Again, I am confused.

[darkmanifest]

The British Royal Family has got their fair share of redheads, so they are pretty darn white, lol.

[(Anonymous)]

It's making fun of yourself? Do you never make fun of yourself?

During certain bright summer days I glow I'm so damn white. I have walked outside and set my entire group of friends laughing their asses off. It also helps in this secret in context of what some people were talking about up thread, different kinds of "white" look better/worse in certain colors.

But yes, it's mostly making fun of yourself and your inability to have any kind of good relationship with the sun.

[darkmanifest]

Now, see, that's what I mean. I've never described myself or heard someone else describe themselves as "so damn black I'm invisible at night", and I am indeed that dark sometimes. It doesn't really occur to me to do it. Someone else might say something like that as a jibe, but it's not something I see self-directed as when pale people find ways to emphasize their own paleness. (Though I've seen the "so white I glow" description often.) Not saying it's a bad thing, it's just...interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

...if you've never heard someone use that description, then you're missing out. It's funny as hell (which is why people do it.)

[darkmanifest]

Haha, probably, I'm used to missing out on the joke.

[(Anonymous)]

To just do it for no reason, I think, is weird, but in this context, I think the point was to make it clear that the color of the dress will probably clash with her skin tone in a fairly unattractive way, which doesn't seem to lessen her desire to wear a dress like Tiana's.

[darkmanifest]

Actually, I think that green would look pretty nice with very pale skin, especially if the yellow parts were changed for white and OP was blond or red-headed, but, I'm fashion-challenged, so I'm probably wrong there.

[mekkio]

Depends on what under coloring you have. Pale skin isn't universally one color. You can have under shades of pink, blue, green, gray and goldish-orange. It's really subtle unless you wear the wrong color clothing and then it really shows.

Like I am pink. I can't wear red because I look flushed all the time. My mom is green (that olive tone, you hear so much about) and she can't wear green because she looks ill. And my nephew is goldish-orange. So orange is out of the question or else he look like bees wax.

[(Anonymous)]

I glow too, for all of to minutes then I turn bright red and crispy. The curse of being a red-head for me.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh what so Twilight vampires are real?!

[(Anonymous)]

As one white person of six in a workplace of 60% or so south asian people and 35? maybe % black people, I hear this a lot amongst my black co-workers. (As if it's offensive or wrong, or somehow makes you white, if your skin is pale.) Maybe I'm in an unusual area? idk

[darkmanifest]

Yeah, I remember that attitude where I grew up, giving shit to people who were "high yellow" or whatever. But I never heard people drawing attention to how incredibly dark they were, like others do paleness. I dunno, it's just so weirdly specific.

[(Anonymous)]

it's just you, because people are ALWAYS making a big deal about how unappealing certain levels of fair are.

[darkmanifest]

...that was my point? That people make a big deal about it? So if people are always doing that then how is it just me?

[(Anonymous)]

Because you get ragged on, and get the "you need a tan" a lot. I never said anything about my being pale as a kid, but I sure got the "you need a tan."

It's always mystified me why so many other people are fixated on that and sometimes people who are really pale, they are pre-empting the comments from others by stating how white they are.

[darkmanifest]

Ah, okay, that makes a lot of sense, I can see how that can become habit if you're always to getting reactions from the peanut gallery (like the other anon whose friends cracked up at how pale s/he was in the sun). But yeah, the fact that people are so fixated in the first place is weird. Paleness isn't some kind of affliction that needs fixing, unless your life's dream is to suntan, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

Except it is. In a lot of media you will see that paleness is a serious flaw and if you have it you MUST want to fix it. It's also the butt of any and all jokes relating to skin color (because it's the only PC joke you can make about skin color).

So yeah, society does see it as an aesthetic flaw and everybody in the world feels free to poke fun at you because of it.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

People who say that must never have met white people so pale they don't tan - they burn.

I can tan, but only a little before I start burning. My Mum? No tan, ever. She just burns.