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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-01 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2434 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2434 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[A7X]


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03.
[Stargate Atlantis]


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04.
[Merlin]


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05.
[Audrey Cooper, Twin Peaks]


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06.
[Fire Emblem: Awakening]


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07.
[Avril Lavigne, Tank Girl]


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08.
[Meet the Robinsons]


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09.
[Blood+]


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10.
[Monty Python's Flying Circus]


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11.
[Valentine Morgenstern, The Mortal Instruments]


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Re: Did you parents ever think you were gay (when you weren't)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-01 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not what atheism is. An atheist doesn't claim to know that gods don't exist; they simply do not extend their belief to the claim that gods DO exist. Knowledge and belief are different things. Most atheists are also agnostic. You can be both.
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Re: Did you parents ever think you were gay (when you weren't)

[personal profile] otakugal15 2013-09-01 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Then they aren't Atheist. They're plain Agnostic.

Re: Did you parents ever think you were gay (when you weren't)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-01 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. They assert no belief that gods exist. They abstain from theism. That makes them atheists. You don't need to claim certain knowledge that gods don't exist in order to be an atheist.

Re: Did you parents ever think you were gay (when you weren't)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-02 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
No... that's not true. You can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist. Belief has nothing to do with the knowledge. An agnostic is someone who doesn't claim to know--basically 90% of the planet, including lots of devoted believers. Surveys show the VAST majority of atheists are agnostic atheists.

Re: Did you parents ever think you were gay (when you weren't)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-02 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
You can be both, sure, but some atheists are not both. They say point-blank that it's a fact that supernatural forces don't exist because [insert various reasons]. Those are the people - usually the loudest versions, on the internet in particular - agnostics might be trying to differentiate themselves from.

Re: Did you parents ever think you were gay (when you weren't)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-09-02 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
You can be both, sure, but some atheists are not both. They say point-blank that it's a fact that supernatural forces don't exist because [insert various reasons]. Those are the people - usually the loudest versions, on the internet in particular - agnostics might be trying to differentiate themselves from.

Nope. So-called gnostic atheists and New Atheists (who are currently most vocal) are two different things. New Atheists tend to take the pragmatic position after Russell that in the absence of proof, disbelief is the most reasonable position.