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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-04 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2437 ]


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Re: Venting thread

(Anonymous) 2013-09-04 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I've gotten incredibly sick of the way socially awkward nerdy guys get treated.

Perhaps just because that was me when I was a teenager, but I see an incredible lack of empathy or understanding in the more socially justice aware circles I roll in, simply because they're white and straight for the most part.

Not like social isolation is worse than the ~zomg hardships~ of being teh gayz, or a woman or whatever*.

*He says being queer, disabled, and with mental health issues. It's by far the worst.

Re: Venting thread

(Anonymous) 2013-09-05 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
'Socially awkward' in what way, if you don't mind me asking?

My vent, on a possibly related note- I hate how abusive/predatory behavior and harmless not-passing-as-mentally-normal behavior tend to get lumped together into a sort of generic 'creepy', on both the feminist or otherwise socially conscious side and the socially awkward and/or nerdy people side. They're extremely different categories of behavior and failing to distinguish them doesn't benefit anyone.

Re: Venting thread

(Anonymous) 2013-09-05 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
It benefits anyone trying to avoid people who behave abnormally? I don't care whether they're harmless or not, I'd just like a blanket word for "do not want near me," and creepy works.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-05 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'd have tried to put it a bit more tactfully, but this is probably what a lot of people would say (if they're being honest.) Part of the problem being that it's not necessarily easy for the average person to judge by observation whether some folks are harmless or not, and you can't exactly go up and inquire.

Re: Venting thread

(Anonymous) 2013-09-05 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's easy to get aggravated because the most popular sites on the internet are pretty much 70% socially-awkward-but-entitled straight white guys complaining about why they can't catch a break, and how women just don't understand (and in some cases really need to fuck them). Now socially-awkward-but-entitled straight white women have almost as much of a foothold, so now we get the joy of watching the two groups have aggressive pity contests.

Ugh, the internet.
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Re: Venting thread

[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-09-05 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't like how weird quiet nerdy dudes are immediately assumed to be manipulative creepers in some circles. Or how "nice guy" is now a code word for "pretending-to-be-nice guy." It's just such a generic phrase with no literal meaning beyond... A guy. Who is nice. :/ Can't we all just say what we mean and call those people two-faced douchebags? Is opposite day!?

Similarly, I hate the whole "LOL this movie is a pathetic male fantasy what girl worth a damn would be attracted to this shy nerdy unassuming dude!?" thing. Um, other nerds? Fuck, it's like the new "guys don't make passes at girls who wear glasses."
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Re: Venting thread

[personal profile] blunderbuss 2013-09-05 10:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's because those douchebags call THEMSELVES nice guys, ergo the origin of the term; it's just that women started using it ironically when they started calling them out on it. But most places I've seen make a point to call them Nice Guys or "nice guys" to differentiate between them and, well, actual nice guys.
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Re: Venting thread

[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-09-05 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know that's where it comes from, but I dunno. People claim to be a lot of things when they have ulterior motives, and you don't really see any others used as insults. Except for maybe the sarcastic use of "do-gooder," which I actually support. Which might make some sense, because it's more about what you do than what you are inside, and people who pretend to be "nice" generally aren't, so don't associate niceness with those people? I HAVE NO IDEA.