[ SECRET POST #2448 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2448 ⌋

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Comments

[lirren]

I'm 44 and I have no intention of giving up things I find enjoyable just because a bunch of kids think it should belong only to them. The funniest part is always when they say shit like "You're old. Get a life." As though participation in fandom and a rich, well-balanced life outside of fandom are mutually exclusive.

[(Anonymous)]

"I'm 44 and I have no intention of giving up things I find enjoyable just because a bunch of kids think it should belong only to them."

Because youngsters are the only ones who judge people's interests based on age, right? My parents constantly mock me for my Transformers collection and I'm only 17. Maybe the older generation should teach their kids that you are never too old to enjoy certain things instead of telling them to 'grow up' and start having hobbies that are considered "normal" or "mature" all the damn time.

Maybe then the younger generation wouldn't internalize that shit so much and react hostile when 'older' people are hanging out in fandom a.k.a. a place they learned to see as silly and childish.

[lirren]

So, the fact that your parents do that means all parents do that, and gives you the right to judge, is that what you're saying? Because none of the parents I know, both online or off, pull that kind of shit on their kids.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't judge people in fandom by their age, thank you very much.

You were implying it's mostly young people who pull this "you're too old for A or B" because they want fandom for themselves. And I brought up the parents because they're often the source for why young people see their own fandoms as childish and dumb and something you need to grow out of.
They have internalized what adults told them is "childish" and what is not and they are applying it to other adults. Big surprise?

[(Anonymous)]

Well that's a good point to make, but you could have made it without being so hostile. Your tone implied that you found her at fault for something.

[pkbitchgirl]

BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, someone's picking on young people!

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's hardly old people complaining about older people in fandom, is it? It this case, I think singling out youngsters for certain things in fandom is perfectly justified.

[kirby_crow]

>>You were implying it's mostly young people who pull this "you're too old for A or B"

If we're talking fandom, I think it's a given that it's mostly young people pulling that. You certainly wouldn't have a lot of older people running around fandom yelling "Get out! This pool is too young for us! Leave!" XD I mean, if they felt that way, how would they even be there?

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, it is mostly young people pulling the "you're too old for fandom" stunt, because old people aren't trying to eject themselves from fandom. That'd just be silly.

I know you're trying to make logical connections here (and maybe work through some of your parental issues) but you're not quite there in terms of sound reasoning.

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder how much of it is blamed on parents drumming that into their kids' heads when it's really the fact that some very vocal younger people just don't like the idea of older people having an interest in fanfiction or shipping, and thereby likely having actual sexual feelings. Disgusting! rme

[(Anonymous)]

you sound so very, very 17.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah that is what I thought as well. So very very 17, so very very living at home with mum and dad.

[(Anonymous)]

Come on, anon. 17 is plenty old enough to not blame other people for your actions. Even if teens get mocked by their parents for being in fandom, that wouldn't make it right for them to turn around and mock older people for also being in fandom. Not only is that illogical, but that'd be alienating people who are ON THE SAME TEAM, people who are in a far better position to show people like your parents that some things are enjoyable at all ages.

[(Anonymous)]

Not all parents are like that.

Fuck, I'm just as big of a fandom geek as my kid. I grew up in fandom! For our family, it was a big dress up event to go see Star Trek the Voyage Home when it came out in the 80s, and I've continued the tradition with my own sprog. He went to his first comic con when he was only 14 weeks old!

Fandom is a love that not everyone shares, so of course there are going to be people, young and old, who will mock others for their love. Just shrug your shoulders and do what makes you happy.

Heck my fandoms aren't my kids fandoms, and his fandoms aren't mine; he has no interest in Doctor Who, I've no interest in Naruto, but when we cross connect - Harry Potter (and I do shamelessly make him go to the cons with me and dress up like Neville), Supernatural, Game of Thrones - it is wonderful!

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, for goodness' sake. Not everything is your parents' fault, and younger people can be good and prejudiced all by themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

One of my friends had some anime magazines out at a garage sale recently. She said three young teens found said magazines and were all excited, until they didn't recognize any of the anime characters. "What?!" they cried, "these are oooooold!" "I didn't even know anime existed before I was born!" "Maybe they're ancient and worth more money!"

My friend said, "They're from when I was a little older than you," and the teens freaked out.

She said she wasn't sure whether to giggle at them, or offer her condolences.

[pantswarrior]

Oh man. Reminds me of when I was on IRC some years back, one of the oldest in the room as usual, and this one guy said that anime fandom hadn't existed prior to the year 2000. So I told him about watching Sailor Moon on a local network affiliate in the mid-90s, and he said I had to be lying. I looked up dates, he said the websites were wrong, there was no way Sailor Moon or any other anime could have been airing in the mid-90s. I told him about the Sci-Fi Channel's anime weekends, watching Robot Carnival and Vampire Hunter D and Project A-ko... he said I was making it up. Again I looked up dates.

He was CONVINCED there was some kind of vast conspiracy to fool him into believing that there had been anime fans outside Japan before the year 2000. I even looked up dates and attendance counts for Otakon and AX, and he was like "BS! How did people even know about anime back then when there was no high-speed internet?" So I explained about fanzines and those technically illegal catalogs where you could order like 5th generation VHS fansubs, and he was just completely refusing to believe that it would ever have worked.

It was both hilarious and really sad.

[(Anonymous)]

Well I was a child in the 60s into the 70s and a big fan of Astro boy and various other Japanese anime shows, like Gigantor.

But I admit I don't know if there was such a thing as a fandom for them, but I wouldn't be surprised, there's been fandoms around as long as there's been any sort of artistic endeavour.

[forgottenjester]

The whole world is a conspiracy!

I wonder what kind of delusional world that guy lives in. It must be an interesting place.

[littlestbirds]

that's hilarious

I've never been in anime fandom but I was crazy about sailor moon when it aired in 1995!

[(Anonymous)]

Ahhh, I remember Saturday Morning Anime on Sci-Fi! The memories~

[(Anonymous)]

How sad that he refuses to broaden his mind a little.

I started watching anime in 1984, when I was four years old, but the real anime explosion started in the 90's. And I am pretty sure there was anime well before I was born...

[(Anonymous)]

Ha, it would probably fry his little brain to hear about the "Japanimation '86" tour I, as a travel agent, put together almost 30 years ago for the first group of North American anime fans to travel to Japan specifically for the purpose of touring studios, magazines, and shopping til they dropped. There were 32 of us, we ranged in age from 12 to about mid-40s, and we all made it back alive, with more Macross memorabilia than we thought existed in the whole wide world. Good times.

[(Anonymous)]

Jeez, and the ninties isn't even that far back! How would he have coped if you mentioned something like Kimba the White Lion, which was destroying people's souls pre-internet, pre-vhs, when my area only had two channels) in the nineteen sixties.

[veronica_rich]

Fuck ME, I was watching "Speed Racer" in the early 70s before going off to kindergarten of a morning. If that's considered anime.