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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2454 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2454 ⌋

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Re: ITT: People missing the point

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Luke and Leia are canon characters that people already have an interest in. You have to admit that something like "interest in planet Tattooine; Elsewhere on Tattooine, the OC" is a much weaker connection to the canon than interest in a major canon character.

Fandom communities are generally understood by most to mean canon characters, no matter what ship or relation or combination you choose to stick them in. Posting an OC there is like going to a car enthusiast community and posting about the completely new car you just made up and built from scratch (but it uses the tail light of the brand everyone loves!!). Sure it's relevant in a way, but it's not what people are there for.

And like I said above, I say this as someone who loves OCs. I've never had a problem with people complaining to me about them, because I don't randomly talk about them where there's no interest and expect people to care.

Re: ITT: People missing the point

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying that people have to show interest in OC discussion threads, I'm saying that they do have space in a general fandom community, like most of anything else relating to the lore. Say someone goes to a star wars comm and makes an individual post like the one the poster below me linked to. People wrote about their own OCs and no one complained; that's what the OP is arguing in favor of.

But it's disingenuous to think that politeness norm, or like no one who has interest in OCs hasn't had some jerk come to them and remind them that all OCs suck or something.

Take this other thread for example http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/876886.html?thread=684870998#cmt684870998

where even if anons had something positive to say, they still felt like they had to preface their comments with "Some OCs suck!" or "I only like them if they're super well-written. It's like, yeah, we know that; it's like everything else. You don't have to give me the OC equivalent of 'no homo' in every OC thread.

I do think the OP could try to form an OC-specific community and be happier for it, but it's not really fair that OC can't be mentioned in general fandom comms.

Re: ITT: People missing the point

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
But it's disingenuous to think that politeness norm, or like no one who has interest in OCs hasn't had some jerk come to them and remind them that all OCs suck or something.

I would say they have the full right to do that if the poster is posting in a place where OCs are not the focus. If people don't like your original homemade car with the Honda tail-lights that you posted in the Honda enthusiast community, you're already starting off on the foot of "what is this doing here?"

Some people are going to go "that's a nice car, but this isn't for originals" or "I'm only interested in originals if they're super well-built" because the poster started a more or less tangential thread. Yes, they know that, yes, the poster knows that; so why did the poster post that there?

Re: ITT: People missing the point

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-09-22 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
If people don't like your original homemade car with the Honda tail-lights that you posted in the Honda enthusiast community, you're already starting off on the foot of "what is this doing here?"

LOL. My parents are part of their local GWRRA Chapter. My dad even chaired the chapter for a few years. Custom jobs are common. Showing up with a bike from another company was acceptable. Until I had to sell my Yamaha, I got invites to their rides. I suspect the same is true of a fair number of vehicle fandoms where you have a healthy mix of restoration and customization.

Re: ITT: People missing the point

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This

Re: ITT: People missing the point

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Kinda funny how if someone doesn't care about a particular ship they can just skip right over it. But if someone starts a thread about say an idea of a story about daily life for someone in District 4 , it's pretty much expected that people not just skip over it but butt in and tell the poster "no one cares about your shitty sue" .


Re: ITT: People missing the point

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-09-22 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Fandom communities are generally understood by most to mean canon characters, no matter what ship or relation or combination you choose to stick them in.

Yes, because the last 40 years of Star Trek clubs built around roleplayed Starfleet, Klingon, and Romulan crews never really happened. (Good grief, who dropped the stupid bomb to redefine fandom = canon fanfic.)
Edited 2013-09-22 00:03 (UTC)

Re: ITT: People missing the point

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

Some people don't even know fandom history but think they can dictate fandom spaces.